My first Test E cycle

[malkalen]

I am thinking of doing my first Test E cycle, stats are as follows:
Weight: 200 lbs
height: 6'4
age:22
bf: 16%

This is how im thinking of setting up my first cycle:
week 1-10 Test E 500mg 2 injections/week(mon, thu)
PCT
week 13-17 Novaldex ed 40/40/20/20


Should i run novaldex at 10mg/day the entire cycle or just have it ready for symptoms of bitch tits and use in case of?

Constructive criticism and flaming welcome!

 

[Metalhead]

Read the stickies bro, id say run the test 12 weeks, get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and read the sticky for the post cycle therapy (pct). Itll have all your answers and youll be set

 

[olddawg]

I'd go 12 weeks, count on 9 mls from a vial with waste etc..., add aromasin 12.5-25mg as your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and use clomid if I pct'd again. but that's me

 

[malkalen]

I'd go 12 weeks, count on 9 mls from a vial with waste etc..., add aromasin 12.5-25mg as your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and use clomid if I pct'd again. but that's me

Ok so i will run test E for 12 weeks at 500 mg/week

I just read the sticky on PCT like metalhead suggested and thought nolva seemed better, why do you prefer clomid? And how important is the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), i have read a lot of different opinions on weather to include it in first cycle or not? reason im asking is i can only get a hold of arimidex and its quite expensive.

 

[Metalhead]

ai's are supposed to keep estrogen from gettong too high. Youdont have to run it, just personal choice. Arimidex is good, just be sure to have nolva on hand in case gyno appears

 

[olddawg]

Ok so i will run test E for 12 weeks at 500 mg/week

I just read the sticky on PCT like metalhead suggested and thought nolva seemed better, why do you prefer clomid? And how important is the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), i have read a lot of different opinions on weather to include it in first cycle or not? reason im asking is i can only get a hold of arimidex and its quite expensive.

I don't remember particulars anymore and to lazy to research it for you , but if you get down to the science clomid and a teste sensitizing supp like toco 8 was superior to nolva. An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) IS needed. You will be taking 5x your bodies normal testosterone, and making 5x the estrogen you would normally have. Even if you don't have signs of gyno, high estrogen will cause thickening of your blood, increase risk of stroke, etc..... Guys who don't use it cause they say they don't need it, haven't gotten their estrogen tested on cycle, if they did they would use it. You can have 0 symptoms of gynocomastia and you could be doing damage. As for the cost, if your body and health isn't worth it, then go for it without the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to save a buck. But read through the threads of guys saying "Help, gyno on first cycle" and they weren't running an ai.

I should add, some of the opinions you read are from morons you know, and, they are opinions and not necessarily right opinions.

 

[Metalhead]

My apologies if i told you wrong. Like olddawg said run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Arimidex is good. Have your diet and training down and youll have great results

 

[Chase147]

Hurts like a b#&!@!!

Hey I just signed up I don't know how any of this works but I just have a question

I did my first test e shot in my outer muscle of the leg on Monday and its now Wednesday and I can barley work everyone was questioning what was wrong but I said I hurt it working out. How long is this pain going to last? I can't have both of my legs hurting do to my job. It hurts like a b$***%!!!

Any suggestions?
Please help

 

[Metalhead]

Hey I just signed up I don't know how any of this works but I just have a question

I did my first test e shot in my outer muscle of the leg on Monday and its now Wednesday and I can barley work everyone was questioning what was wrong but I said I hurt it working out. How long is this pain going to last? I can't have both of my legs hurting do to my job. It hurts like a b$***%!!!

Any suggestions?
Please help

Could be a number of things, virgin muscles, bad technique (shaky hands, moving needle too much) bad gear, needle was too big. Hopefully its not an infection. Best of luck

 

[Chase147]

I hate needles with a passion but after it went through the skin it didn't hurt but as I was going in i felt it makes it own way down, is that normal or is it supposed to go straight through? My gear is good I got 1.5 inch 20g needles and test e 250mg or ml I get up and see for sure but I can't move...

 

[Metalhead]

23g, 1 1/2 is recommended for glutes. What i use. Put a heating pad on it and you should be fine. 25g 1in for shoulders. Anymore questions create your own thread so more people can put their input and so you dont hijack malkalin's thread

 

[Chase147]

Thanks for your info and help. When I find out how to i'll do so
Thanks again

 

[DrHiney]

Ok so i will run test E for 12 weeks at 500 mg/week

I just read the sticky on PCT like metalhead suggested and thought nolva seemed better, why do you prefer clomid? And how important is the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), i have read a lot of different opinions on weather to include it in first cycle or not? reason im asking is i can only get a hold of arimidex and its quite expensive.

You should run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle like olddawg suggested, I would suggest either Arimadex 0.5mg ED or Aromasin 12.5mg ED. You should also run BOTH novadex and clomid during post cycle therapy (pct). During PCT there is still an abundance of estrogen in your system that was aromatized from the test, however your test levels are now dropping meaning you may have a higher level of estrogen/test ratio for a few weeks. Novadex prevents this estrogen from binding to breast tissue and causing gynecomastia.
Clomid will inhibit the negative feedback that has been preventing your testes from producing testosterone on their own since you have been introducing exogeneously; thereby restarting or kick starting production in the testes.

Both clomid and Novadex should be in every ones PCT regimen IMO.
You can run Novadex 40mg ED for 2 weeks, then 20mg ED for 2 weeks; Clomid 100mg ED for 2 weeks, 50mg ED for 2 weeks. However I usually run Novadex 20mg ED for 4 weeks and Clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks.

 

[100lbulua]

Keep us posted

 

[malkalen]

Ok so from what i gather a good cycle would be:
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/week
wk 1-12 Arimidex 0,5mg ed
wk 15-19 Nolvadex 20/20/20/20
wk 15-19 clomid 50/50/50/50

Thanks for all the constructive criticism, repped those who helped the most! I'm going to start this cycle sometime in march since thats when i can get a hold of the things i need, just trying to do my research for now, but i will post when i start the cycle definitely!