My next bulk cycle-please critique.

[crazymike]

Okay, it is about that time again. I am planning on starting this in the beginning of Sept.

I currently am a slittle shy of 230.
I am hoping to get to 245+ with this cycle.

1-10 500mg/week-Test Cyp(Syd Grp)
1-10 400mg/week-EQ (Syd Grp)
2-12 75mgs/EOD-Tren(Homemade)-I might do the full 12 weeks...not sure yet.

PCT starts 2 days after last Tren shot.
Will have Liquid-Nolv on hand.
Prob. will get some Bromo, just in case.

Then all the usuals like Milk Thistle, Saw Pametto, etc.


Does this look like a good bulk cycle?
Is there anything that I should add or switch? Or do differently? I really want to do DBOL, but I think it would not be wise to run with the Tren.

 

[Kakdiesel]

i would change the tren to 35mg/day (1/2 cc)..this will keep your tren level in your blood more consistent and produce better results. because it is not an ester, its half life i believe is around the range of 12 hours. I've never been a big fan of EOD with fina or Winstrol (winny) because it doesnt make sense to me since their half lives are so short.

personally i have only done 75mg (1 cc) ed with tren..but everything else looks good. Good luck

 

[BiggieSwolls]

Cycle looks good Mike.

As far as shooting the Tren ed or eod, that is still up for debate as I personally have used both methods and have not noticed a difference in gains between the two. So for me, I use eod since I generally do not enjoy feeling like a pin cushion.

The only thing I would possibly switch would be the EQ to Deca only because you just used EQ in your last bulker and I am one of those guys who likes to see the compounds changed up every once in awhile. Save for Test (which should always be a part of someones cycle IMO), switching up the compounds seems to keep the gains coming even after being 'on' for lengthy durations.

 

[crazymike]

There is 2 reasons why I prefer EQ over Deca.

1-The EQ is cheaper for me. And right now cost is very important!

2-Plus I hear that gyno from deca is a bitch. And combine that with Tren gyno(rare, but it happens) and you would be fucked if it happens!

Am I right in this thinking, or am I way off base?

That is just my theory anyway. And I do agree, that I think I am going to keep the Tren at EOD injections.

 

[fatchops]

Looks good Mike......I am running tren for 10 weeks right now....it is def some fun!!!

 

[BiggieSwolls]

There is 2 reasons why I prefer EQ over Deca.

1-The EQ is cheaper for me. And right now cost is very important!

2-Plus I hear that gyno from deca is a bitch. And combine that with Tren gyno(rare, but it happens) and you would be fucked if it happens!

Am I right in this thinking, or am I way off base?

That is just my theory anyway. And I do agree, that I think I am going to keep the Tren at EOD injections.

Hmmm, I hear the Deca/Fina Gyno thing all the time here on the boards but having seen a lot of people close to me use those 2 compounds in bulkers together at pretty decent dosages, I have yet to see any gyno occur. But..........not everyone is the same of course so I do see your feelings on the issue. No one wants to mess around with possible gyno.

Considering what you have stated then, I really like your cycle. Are you planning on loggin this cycle just like you did on the last one?

 

[crazymike]

Yeah, I definitely will keep another log.

I know I am probably being really paranoid about the gyno thing. I just really do not want to get it. I will probably try Deca in another cycle, when I am not using Tren.

Thanks for all the replys and help.

 

[elijah_123]

Don't do the fina 35mg/ed the half life is long enough that 75mg EOD will keep you at or above the blood concentration of 35mg ed.
I'd suggest running the fina from week 1 to help kick the cycle off since the eq and test cyp will take a little while to be noticed. That and I love fina

Not sure how you feel about slin but I would offer that as an addition. 10-15 iu will add quite a bit to the cycle. Maybe another 5+ lb and witht he fina/eq fat gain will be minimal if any. And $23 gets enough that will last the whole cycle plus the cost of pins. Its a great deal

 

[trendkill]

looks like a crazy cycle mike, yea the dbol and tren would kill ya. i say u do what u put down, all i would do is maybe increase the test to 600, other then that looks like a killer cycle.

when u starting this? i am justb on my way to catching up with u and now u gonna get HUGE again, mb, hahhaha, good luck bro

 

[crazymike]

Thanks bro. That is the idea.......to never 'let' you catch up!!LOL

I will have just enough Test to up it to 600/week if I want. So I might just take your suggestion.

 

[Eze]

Looks good Mike. I hope you make some serious gains like you did last cycle!

 

[crazymike]

Yeah me too!!

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

Hmmm, I hear the Deca/Fina Gyno thing all the time here on the boards but having seen a lot of people close to me use those 2 compounds in bulkers together at pretty decent dosages, I have yet to see any gyno occur. But..........not everyone is the same of course so I do see your feelings on the issue. No one wants to mess around with possible gyno.

I have gotten gyno from DECA & TREN. IMO it all depends on the individual... I have buddies that have done cycles of test/ dball/deca and never had any gyno symptoms at all. damn bastards / joke
& I think arimadex wont help to get rid of deca & tren gyno.

cycle looks good, IMO do the deca if you have joint problems, cause it lubricates your joints and might help you lift more. tren will help get stronger and its out of your system faster than deca.

 

[Mr. dB]

I will have just enough Test to up it to 600/week if I want. So I might just take your suggestion.

...if the vials are properly filled... Seems like they often come up short by a cc or so per vial, and over a cycle that adds up.

 

[crazymike]

Oh yeah, def. hopefully they won't be too underfilled. I was lucky on my last cycle. I had Brovel, and they are supposed to be really underfilled. Mine were fine. So hopefully it will be the same!

 

[Mr. dB]

Oh yeah, def. hopefully they won't be too underfilled. I was lucky on my last cycle. I had Brovel, and they are supposed to be really underfilled. Mine were fine. So hopefully it will be the same!

I did Tornel enan and TT EQ for my first cycle, and they were all filled to 10ml on the dot. For my second I did QV enan and deca, and they all came up short by at least 1ml per vial, I ran out two weeks before the end of the cycle and had to finish with the Tornel left over from the first.

If you're doing Canadian underground stuff, someone else will have to tell you how consistently they are filled. But, finances allowing, it wouldn't hurt to have at least one more vial than you think you'll need for the cycle.

--dave

 

[crazymike]

Well i do have some other test left over from previous. So if it turns out to be underfilled I can use the other at the end!

It is all Syd Group so hopefully it is good!