my upcoming mass cycle....

needsize · Oct 5, 2003

For a few weeks after the show, I'm just bridging with some peru tech Anavar (var) and 2iu per day of jintropin, just letting my body go back to normal. Starting in another 2 weeks or so, this is what I plan on running (keeping in mind that the low dose stuff doesnt work for me anymore, and this is actually lower than my last mass cycle). I havent completely decided on the length either..

weeks 1-5 BD anadol 100mg ed
weeks 1-12 quest enth 800mg week
weeks 1-12 quest eq 500mg week
weeks 1-12 quest deca 500mg week
Will also bump the jintropin up to 3iu per day when this starts, possibly 4iu after a while at that dose. Also just finalizing injection times for a mix of humalog and humalin r.

Goal: to step on stage 10 months or so from now with 10-15lbs more mass than I did at this show

rpwhit777 · Oct 5, 2003

Looks awesome... bro good luck

JohnnyB · Oct 5, 2003

Bro why deca and eq? What about tren enan with eq?

JohnnyB

needsize · Oct 5, 2003

I cant use tren, messes with my temper too much, so with a pregnant wife at home, its not an option. Both eq and deca are anabolic, but both work differently, so I want to see how they work together

JohnnyB · Oct 5, 2003

Damn that's to bad about the tren. Go for it Bro let us know how it come out.

Just wondering if you've used the deca/eq together before?

JohnnyB

needsize · Oct 5, 2003

never used them together, but have used them both several times on their own. Usually I go really high dose on just 2 drugs, this time I want to try to spread the mg's around to more drugs, to see if the synergistic effect is better

E-Swift25 · Oct 5, 2003

I'd be very interested to see those results.

Mr. dB · Oct 5, 2003

The deca+eq controversy pops up a lot, people seem to have strong opinions about it. I'll be very interested to see how that works for you, 'cause on the surface it makes a lot of sense to me.

biggrnu · Oct 5, 2003

that's alot of guess work bro!!!!!

send it to me i'll tell ya if it works

JohnnyB · Oct 5, 2003

I've heard the debates about eq and deca shouldn't be used together, that's why I asked.

eq is a derivitive of test and deca is a 19-nor, so I never understood why they shouldn't be used together.

JohnnyB

bilbo · Oct 5, 2003

Needsize,
Why are you staying on for so long? You just got done with a contest, as did I(last week). You've probably been on for the last 3-4 months. Now you're bridging with Anavar (var) and gh. Gh I understand, but the Anavar (var). Then your gonna hop on a really big cycle again in 2 weeks. Don't you think that you should let your body get back to homeostasis for a while. Let your receptor sites clear out. Maybe get on some NO2, creatine and insulin along with that gh. Your liver is just beggin' for mercy at this point.
I'm not trying to sound like mr. Know-it-all, believe me, I am really tempted to bridge with Anavar (var) or d-bol too. But I think it's in my livers best interest not to. So i'm gonna stay clean for about 6 weeks. Let me know what you think.
bilbo

DirkMoneyshot · Oct 5, 2003

If i remeber correctly needsize said he's been on for 7months. He was on a bulker before he started to cut. Bro.....I don't think you need to take 7 months off but give it like 8 or so weeks and go heavy on post cycle therapy (pct). Just my opinion.

Also did you say you were using a mix of humalog and humulin R??? What dosage do you plan on using on each.

DADAWG · Oct 5, 2003

i like the cycle myself , ive been wanting to combine deca and eq myself

needsize · Oct 5, 2003

first, the receptor debate was over a long time ago, you cant "clear out" your receptors as you get new ones every day. I now have 1 year where I can do a show at the next level, if I dont, then I have to repeat this level again, which I dont want to do. So I have 1 year, not including the 4 months it takes to get ready for a show, to gain the mass I need for the next level. Thats really not very much time, thats why I'm going back on. The only thing that would keep me "off" would be health, and I get blood tests every 1-2 months, and everything is in the normal range

needsize · Oct 5, 2003

DirkMoneyshot said:
If i remeber correctly needsize said he's been on for 7months. He was on a bulker before he started to cut. Bro.....I don't think you need to take 7 months off but give it like 8 or so weeks and go heavy on post cycle therapy (pct). Just my opinion.

Also did you say you were using a mix of humalog and humulin R??? What dosage do you plan on using on each.

Havent decided on the slin doses, but as usual I am starting out light, and working my way up. I know how I react to humalog, but not to humalin r, so I'm being careful there.

As for time off, it'll end up being a month, which is plenty for me. Up until this last cycle I've always done the 8 weeks on, 8 weeks off approach and it doesnt work for me anymore. I am so far past my natural genetic limit, that I drop size as soon as I come off. I cant be trying to work my way up the competitive ranks and dropping size at the same time

Ifrit · Oct 5, 2003

The cleaning out of receptors doesn't happen like Needsize says. I beleive alot of people misconstrue this with not fully restoring natural test levels when coming off or simply because they use a different Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) in their newest cycle. Hardly anyone uses the same cycle over and over. Everyone is always on new things.

needsize · Oct 5, 2003

Ifrit said:
The cleaning out of receptors doesn't happen like Needsize says. I beleive alot of people misconstrue this with not fully restoring natural test levels when coming off or simply because they use a different Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) in their newest cycle. Hardly anyone uses the same cycle over and over. Everyone is always on new things.

I'm not worried about recovering test levels either. I ran hcg at 500iu 2 x per week all through my cycle, and even got my wife pregnant after being on for 4 months, so thats definitely not a concern

jcp2 · Oct 6, 2003

JohnnyB said:
I've heard the debates about eq and deca shouldn't be used together, that's why I asked.

eq is a derivitive of test and deca is a 19-nor, so I never understood why they shouldn't be used together.

JohnnyB

I totally agree and have been saying this for a while, it is like saying you shouldn't use tren and Winstrol (winny) together because the effects are similar. Everyone who has used the two together says they really like it, so that is what i would go with.

Micro · Oct 6, 2003

jcp2 said:
I totally agree and have been saying this for a while, it is like saying you shouldn't use tren and Winstrol (winny) together because the effects are similar. Everyone who has used the two together says they really like it, so that is what i would go with.

I never heard not to use Tren and Winstrol (winny) together. Most cutting cycles I read have both in there with some Prop and EQ.

I usually see Prop,Tren,EQ and Winstrol (winny) used alot. But I've never used Winstrol (winny) so I could of missed it somewhere.

jcp2 · Oct 6, 2003

Micro said:
I never heard not to use Tren and Winstrol (winny) together. Most cutting cycles I read have both in there with some Prop and EQ.

You misunderstood me, i agree, you don't here it, but you do here people saying not to run deca and eq together.

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