My Very First cycle. PLEASE ADVISE

[armedcivillian1988]

So I know Im going to get ripped on for this as I deserve it

im 23
5'8"
200 LBS
OUT OF SHAPE!

Need a Beach body asap...just Looking for some confidence to be honest... if I bulk and Retain a Bit of it I will be Happy then bulk one more time and one cutting cycle and try to go natural from there.

So My diet is In check. nothing But super foods 5 or 6 Times a Day , chicken , fish , lean beef , boiled eggs , veggies and fruits , 40 gram protien drink with milk after workout , in the morning and in the evening.

planned cycle.

500MG Test E for week 1 -10
20MG per day Novadex week 2-15
clomex 300 MG day 1 week 12
clomex 50 MG per day week 13-15

Have mens ultra Multi vitamen.. best GNC had to offer.

workout plan...remember.. My Body is Sloppy

Day 1: stretch then 5 Minz of Cardio
Chest: 4 workouts each workout 4 sets each set 8-10 Reps
Tries 4/4/8-10
20 Minz Cardio

Day 2 OFF

Day 3: Same Routine as Day 1 Just Back and Bi's

Day 4 OFF

DAY 5 Same Routine as Day 1 Just LEGS/Glutes Shoulders

Day 6 OFF

Day 7 30 Minutes Cardio

Start off Day 1.

I Know I shouldnt be doing this in the First place but Im not turning Back. I think I have everything in check except I dont know if Im going to maximize my results from the Routine. either way I think Im going to get results and Keep something with my post cycle therapy (pct) Plan...

I started out knowing nothing and Wanting to get Lean and Fit not Bulk up........ so I need to make the Best of this. Hopefully someone can advise.

 

[Cobra Strike]

whats your bf%

 

[Sadista]

well first of all it looks like you are new to the gym and its a really bad idea to start it with a juice. You need a decent base for aas to work. I know many guys that started gym with juice gained 20 pounds of crap weight fast and after even a good post cycle therapy (pct) they lost everything...there are just too many reasons why not to start the juice when your new to the weights to list em here

First you need to stick around and learn how to proper lift and diet. Go to the diet section get a good diet approved by 3j and go from there. After couple months you should have grate results...better than if you were to start juicing now and most importantly you will see if you got what it takes to continue

Free diet advice from 3j...sticky thread in the diet forum <---- go there calculate your bmr and tdee and go from there


after reading all this crap and you are like fuck that ill juice anyways then 500 test/week for 10 weeks is good just fix your post cycle therapy (pct).

No need to run novadex through cycle...get a legit estrogen blocker like aromasin and there is no need to take that much clomid most of the guys i know dont take more than 150 and i take 50/25/25 clomid with 20/20/20/20 nolva and it works grate for me

You might look in to hcg during the cycle too

 

[DRIODX]

If your tryna to gain mass, strength. Quick my advice would be...Throw in sum winstrol with your test in your last 5..6 weeks...this will get rid of all that water intake makin u solid..test is pretty known for lots of water intake...I would rather prefer deca...
-when your lifting do heavy sets like 4 sets of 5..
-get lots and lots of protein
-minumize any sugar intake

 

[Bullseye Forever]

your first cycle bro?

 

[Teutonic]

I read " out of shape" and stopped.

NO GEAR FOR YOU.

Aas, if your a fat bastard, will make it worse ie fat can go up, bitchtittus maximus will rise to the top and chances of high blood pressure and fkd up lipid s could become an issue.

 

[armedcivillian1988]

Yes my First cycle.

I didnt understand the dosage u Rec. For my PCT...

Im very familiar with the GYM. I trained for 2 years with a BB who I happen to Work with 5 days a week. So I know About control and Form.. Different Workouts.. etc. Just havent used any of it in so long that im a Little Chunker.

And Ive already got everything I thought was needed for the Cycle. Also Going into my 2rd week so... Not turning back now. Need to make the best.

So Novadex is Not rec. Throughout the Whole cycle and To Much Clomid at the end the way I have it set up now? ANd also Toss in the estr. Blocker aromasin on what weeks to what weeks at what doses?????

Thanks for the help guys

 

[Sadista]

Yes my First cycle.

I didnt understand the dosage u Rec. For my PCT...

Im very familiar with the GYM. I trained for 2 years with a BB who I happen to Work with 5 days a week. So I know About control and Form.. Different Workouts.. etc. Just havent used any of it in so long that im a Little Chunker.

And Ive already got everything I thought was needed for the Cycle. Also Going into my 3rd week so... Not turning back now. Need to make the best.

So Novadex is Not rec. Throughout the Whole cycle and To Much Clomid at the end the way I have it set up now? ANd also Toss in the estr. Blocker aromasin on what weeks to what weeks at what doses?????

Thanks for the help guys

since you already started and there is no turning back...
i dont remember the dosage of aromasin so just do quick search on the forums and you will find it. You dont have to take it till the first sign of gyno or you take small dosage ed to keep the water bloat down

novadex wont do anything to you if you take it through cycle...just take it with clomid at the end

you can do something like this
week 12-13 clomid 150-100
week 13-15 clomid 50
week 12-16 novadex from 40 to 20

 

[Sadista]

on the other hand if you have high body fat % your body will prolly like to convert lots of that test to estrogen so i would recommend taking aromasin through out the entire cycle and pct

 

[armedcivillian1988]

thanks alot for the Help.

A buddy of Mine has recamended me to a Product Called HI-TECH ESTROGENEX... Im not sure if im aloud to ask about this stuff if Not im sorry but... IS that a safe anti estrogen To Run?? Its available to me whereas I dont have a soruce for the aromasin...its oral.

 

[coolhandjames]

Yes my First cycle.

I didnt understand the dosage u Rec. For my PCT...

Im very familiar with the GYM. I trained for 2 years with a BB who I happen to Work with 5 days a week. So I know About control and Form.. Different Workouts.. etc. Just havent used any of it in so long that im a Little Chunker.

And Ive already got everything I thought was needed for the Cycle. Also Going into my 3rd week so... Not turning back now. Need to make the best.

So Novadex is Not rec. Throughout the Whole cycle and To Much Clomid at the end the way I have it set up now? ANd also Toss in the estr. Blocker aromasin on what weeks to what weeks at what doses?????

Thanks for the help guys

If your out of shape now,and you juice...your gonna be a temple built on shifting sands

Do you know what happens when you rig a car for nitrous oxide without modification.........BOOM

 

[Cobra Strike]

thanks alot for the Help.

A buddy of Mine has recamended me to a Product Called HI-TECH ESTROGENEX... Im not sure if im aloud to ask about this stuff if Not im sorry but... IS that a safe anti estrogen To Run?? Its available to me whereas I dont have a soruce for the aromasin...its oral.

that hi tech shit is bs...otc estro blockers dont work and neither do test boosters....aromasin or adex...aromasin at 12.5mg/ed

and I strongly agree with teutonic about you doing this....stop your cycle and just pct....get on the diet forum and get in shape....then run some gear. If not you will learn what your doing is a very bad idea.

Do you think everyone is going to lie to you??

 

[armedcivillian1988]

No I dont think everyone is going to lie to me. I feel that its a little to late to turn back and I misewell get the experience.. Im young I can bounce back easy. Its a little motivation to you know? Hopefully I can get some good out of this. Its already costed So Much.. If it even gives me extreme confidence for the last 5 weeks of my cycle it will be worth it. I havent had confidence since the last time I was Fit....because I got into a relationship with a female who seemed not to care and was so into me I let me self go....

 

[armedcivillian1988]

So Im 4 days in and Im sleeping alot longer than usal...

 

[Cobra Strike]

No I dont think everyone is going to lie to me. I feel that its a little to late to turn back and I misewell get the experience.. Im young I can bounce back easy. Its a little motivation to you know? Hopefully I can get some good out of this. Its already costed So Much.. If it even gives me extreme confidence for the last 5 weeks of my cycle it will be worth it. I havent had confidence since the last time I was Fit....because I got into a relationship with a female who seemed not to care and was so into me I let me self go....

its your decision....dont count on aas for confidence bro...

 

[armedcivillian1988]

I appreciate your honesty. What do you think about the sleeping?

 

[Cobra Strike]

I appreciate your honesty. What do you think about the sleeping?

after 4 days the test wont be the problem...you are probably just tired...sleep is good

 

[armedcivillian1988]

well it was Quad Test. Spose to have 1 that kicked in 4 days. then 7. 10 and 14 for the Eneth. Unless it was all in my head. I worked out last Night with energy ive never felt before... but I went to bed at 4 am and slept till 2:30 PM

Is RUI 100% LEGIT?? and Safe to order to your door???

 

[Cobra Strike]

well it was Quad Test. Spose to have 1 that kicked in 4 days. then 7. 10 and 14 for the Eneth. Unless it was all in my head. I worked out last Night with energy ive never felt before... but I went to bed at 4 am and slept till 2:30 PM

Is RUI 100% LEGIT?? and Safe to order to your door???

you were proly just tired bro...

and yes rui is 100% legit

 

[lite wt rookie]

Have you tried the p90x workout? I think its good to get core strength and build confidence comes with diet plan look around u can get a burnt copy for next to nothing will help u get back in shape I know alot of ppl who had great results that stuck with it I did it a few months ago it was pretty intense save aas till later when the results will be positive not negative