I started taking JuicePump.com Mass Stack containing D-Anabol, deca 250, M-tren 75 and Winnstral 50. I've been feeling great and have a ton of stamina and strength with only a week in. But I noticed that there is a bulge between my chest and a small bulge by my collar bone. Could that be my body retaining water because I'm not drinking enough? What are your thoughts? Thanks everyone
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bulge? never experienced anything like that.Not as large as a tumor but noticible without a shirt. I massaged the area and its gone. Now the area right under my rib cage is all soft and jelly like I'm full of liquid. I am happy to keep a log but I'm no longer taking the deca or the danabol until I figure out what is going on. These are natural steroids Im not scared of a real danger but I'm just sketched out. Has anyone experience liquid swelling ?
Highest Power
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I've been using juicepump products (more specifically their d-anobal and winnstral 50) for about 10 months now. Both of those products have a diuretic effect on my body.
If you are getting water retention, I wouldnt be surprised if it was from their deca 250. It is touted as their best bulker and they claim you can have 15 - 20 pounds gained within a 2 month period. (maybe some of that 15 - 20 is water! i do not know though because i have never used it)
How much experience with lifting and cycling do you have? 4 of their products at once could be overkill! I'm very sensitive to D-anobal get great results just taking just two pills a day for 45 days!. Any weight that you put on with it stays, and if you eat clean... you might not put on much or any fat with it either! Maybe try just doubling up on d-anobal? DPR, one of the forums mods, highly endorses d-anobal...
I've had great success with their products and wouldn't mind keeping a log, but my fitness goals are different most people on the board, so im not sure if people would find it interesting. (im a pretty boy going for a "cut version of Bradly Cooper" look...)
If you are getting water retention, I wouldnt be surprised if it was from their deca 250. It is touted as their best bulker and they claim you can have 15 - 20 pounds gained within a 2 month period. (maybe some of that 15 - 20 is water! i do not know though because i have never used it)
How much experience with lifting and cycling do you have? 4 of their products at once could be overkill! I'm very sensitive to D-anobal get great results just taking just two pills a day for 45 days!. Any weight that you put on with it stays, and if you eat clean... you might not put on much or any fat with it either! Maybe try just doubling up on d-anobal? DPR, one of the forums mods, highly endorses d-anobal...
I've had great success with their products and wouldn't mind keeping a log, but my fitness goals are different most people on the board, so im not sure if people would find it interesting. (im a pretty boy going for a "cut version of Bradly Cooper" look...)
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more people than you would think would find your results interesting.
any results are better than no results - regardless of your goals. I just want to know what is in them are and why people say they're so good. I know the company has a "history" but when you try to look them/their products up you get VERY little...
any results are better than no results - regardless of your goals. I just want to know what is in them are and why people say they're so good. I know the company has a "history" but when you try to look them/their products up you get VERY little...
Steroidologist
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well im currently using the d-anobal.
i have until the next monday to be finished.
i def did notice some stuff.
i had taken t-bombs summer of '10 not tbombs 2 but the 1-test, and i could tell it was a drug, def made me cut, and nothing too crazy with strength no sides. im a PT know how to work out efficiently so use much lighter weights than i can handle. and when on the tbomb, what i noticed u need to push yourself to get stronger, but what the drugs do is make it easier to handle the heavier weights u could already handle and smoother.
so on to the juice pump. the same thing happened with this stuff on the d-anbol, and i went into thinking i wasted money, so no placebo effect, and i start off my week with a run, and this stuff helped, now it really could only be a a test booster and thats why they want u to cycle off, and thats why my runs went so well.
it increased my squat, or it just gave me the confidence to use more weight.
but i began easily using more weight in all work outs, but weights i could have used if i wanted to push myself, but would have not gotten the best work out with.
the only way to be sure about this stuff is to compare it to a real drug which it is simulating.
now i placed an order a week ago for the m-tren 75, which i will wait two weeks to use after the d-anobal is finished. i will be determining if its all the same stuff in different packaging etc.
i have until the next monday to be finished.
i def did notice some stuff.
i had taken t-bombs summer of '10 not tbombs 2 but the 1-test, and i could tell it was a drug, def made me cut, and nothing too crazy with strength no sides. im a PT know how to work out efficiently so use much lighter weights than i can handle. and when on the tbomb, what i noticed u need to push yourself to get stronger, but what the drugs do is make it easier to handle the heavier weights u could already handle and smoother.
so on to the juice pump. the same thing happened with this stuff on the d-anbol, and i went into thinking i wasted money, so no placebo effect, and i start off my week with a run, and this stuff helped, now it really could only be a a test booster and thats why they want u to cycle off, and thats why my runs went so well.
it increased my squat, or it just gave me the confidence to use more weight.
but i began easily using more weight in all work outs, but weights i could have used if i wanted to push myself, but would have not gotten the best work out with.
the only way to be sure about this stuff is to compare it to a real drug which it is simulating.
now i placed an order a week ago for the m-tren 75, which i will wait two weeks to use after the d-anobal is finished. i will be determining if its all the same stuff in different packaging etc.
I decided to suck it up and see how it goes. I am decreasing the dosage but I am going to continue taking all of the 4 pills. I have noticed difference in the "looks" of the muscle. I have been weight training since 2004 but had a big gap from March 2010 to January 2012, basically starting over but as far as experience in the gym I have some. As far as gear I have take injectable deca in 2004 nothing else past that.
I have pictures from the first day of the cycle and will post them every two weeks. I am going to track weight, body fat and strenght so I can keep a log for you guys.
I have pictures from the first day of the cycle and will post them every two weeks. I am going to track weight, body fat and strenght so I can keep a log for you guys.
Highest Power
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If you use the search feature on the forum and type "d-anobal" and "juicepump" and look through the threads, DPR (forum mod) explains they are natural steroids and not a test booster. He used a similar compound in the 90s to gain 15 - 20 pounds... but im sure he was taking more than the equivelent of d-anobal's reccomended dosage of 2 pills a day.... so it could get expensive using just their stuff if your trying to put on tons of weight.
Steroidologist
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he actually states they are both.
Highest Power
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touche good sir.
F350powerstroke
FNG
What the hell is this stuff?
F350powerstroke
FNG
Wait I did some research on one of their products. 14a-hexadecahydropicen-3-ol is on the "winnstral" label, so I googled and came up with this ;
#####Sorry Guys We want to keep these products on the market and have agreed to remove any info from public eyes for the sponsor
F350 has seen that they are the real deal. IF you have questions send him a pm. THese products were designed by one of the most renowned chemist of the Golden age. He is a legend. I don't often step out to give my approval on products. I was very skeptical till I was told who designed there product line and was happy to clear them to become a sponsor. We don't just take anyone who shows up with money. These products are very cheap for what they are too.
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Dreaded Pirate Roberts
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ok So here is the Rub on the products from Juice pump. They are Natural steroids and they have test boosted in them. THe products work. And you don't need a post cycle therapy (pct) with after your complete you cycle. They are 100% legal.
I used the main compound in D-anabal in the 90's to go from 186 or so to around 200. The formulas are pretty packed of good stuff.
I used the main compound in D-anabal in the 90's to go from 186 or so to around 200. The formulas are pretty packed of good stuff.
F350powerstroke
FNG
thats understandable on the down low part. i just wanted to know what im putting into my body and couldnt find anything conclusive logs online tho. how long was your run of d-anabol and what sides are expected?
Dreaded Pirate Roberts
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F350 I understand. They are made by Advanced Methyl technologies -AMT. AMT was responsible for the release of Methly 1 Test the strongest ( legal at the time ) pro-steroid every released. THere products are good to go.
Highest Power
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im curious how these effect women
As promised, I am starting the log. It has been a solid 2 weeks on the Mass stack. Like I mentioned above I decided to suck it up even more and take the full recommended dosage for the stack.
D-Anabol 2 pills a day
Deca 250 2 pills a day
MTren-75 1 pill a day
Winnstral-50 2 pills a day
My goal is to reduce body fat and drop very few pounds. I was at a weight that most bodybuilders would think is very low but it was all 181lbs of unhealthy fat and weak muscles.
5'11"
Day 1 181lbs AM weight, very little strength and stamina. I tried benching 125 and could not I felt horrible.
Day 13 175.5lbs AM weight, benching 3 sets 10 reps of 125lbs with no problem but still struggling on the last set. The pump is huge btw.
That weird lump has gone away. Muscles are starting to define themselves, they are also nice and rounded where it should be. Recovery with this stack has been fantastic.
I also have the luxury of 8 hours sleep every day.
Diet has been consistently. Egg whites, Chicken, lean red meat, salmon, wheat pasta, lots of fruits in between meals throughout the day. No bread, processed sugar, soda, sweets. Basically high protein, low card diet.
I have never kept a strict log like this so if you guys have suggestions by all means suggest.
So far so very good.
D-Anabol 2 pills a day
Deca 250 2 pills a day
MTren-75 1 pill a day
Winnstral-50 2 pills a day
My goal is to reduce body fat and drop very few pounds. I was at a weight that most bodybuilders would think is very low but it was all 181lbs of unhealthy fat and weak muscles.
5'11"
Day 1 181lbs AM weight, very little strength and stamina. I tried benching 125 and could not I felt horrible.
Day 13 175.5lbs AM weight, benching 3 sets 10 reps of 125lbs with no problem but still struggling on the last set. The pump is huge btw.
That weird lump has gone away. Muscles are starting to define themselves, they are also nice and rounded where it should be. Recovery with this stack has been fantastic.
I also have the luxury of 8 hours sleep every day.
Diet has been consistently. Egg whites, Chicken, lean red meat, salmon, wheat pasta, lots of fruits in between meals throughout the day. No bread, processed sugar, soda, sweets. Basically high protein, low card diet.
I have never kept a strict log like this so if you guys have suggestions by all means suggest.
So far so very good.
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F350powerstroke
FNG
Wait....u can only bench 125lbs? Lol ur doing it wrong buddy...u need to EAT BIG, eat right, train right and rest properly before u even think about prohormones..
Highest Power
New member
Honestly, I thinkyou are taking WAY to much stuff for where your at physically! if i where you... I'd start off taking 1 or two d-anobala day for a month, then take a month off.... then go back on after 3 - 4 weeks. you'll still see awesome results if you eat well...
stop taking all four. Its a waste of money for you... plus and you could definately get seriously injured because you dont have the experience yet. just do one package at a time with breaks in between.
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