Need help guys RE:MDROL, PCT, and Testosterone levels.

[superfreak]

Ok so the following is a bit complicated so bear with me. Around June of last year (2010) I decided to try my first cycle of anything, I opted to go with Mdrol, and I hate to admit it against the recommendations of other users in this group. I took it for 6 weeks, and then I did a PCT immediately afterward for 6weeks which consisted of: Milk thistle, Formadrol extreme, and Tribulus (higher power nutrition brand). I noticed afterward my sex drive was extremely low, and I felt depressed all the time, along with my pecs felt saggy. So I gave my body about 3 months to work through it itself, to no avail still same symptoms. No morning wood and I was lucky to be able to get a woody once a week! and it was a weak one. So I went online and I ordered ZMA. While taking it I noticed my libido went up a little but not where it should/normally be, and as soon as I stopped taking it, libido went back to square one. So now around December/January I purchased Clomid off of someone and did it for 2 weeks stacked with some Tongkat Ali (similar to tribulus) and my libido felt a little better for a few weeks after that, but then it dropped again. Took off from everything again letting my system recoup and it got a tiny bit better, but again no where it should be. Finally went to the doctor at the begining of March and got blood work done, today I went in to go over it with her and my Test level, although in the normal range she found it to be low. 402 to be exact.
So my question is what can I do to bring it up to where it used to be? Guys I am not trying to boast or sound full of shit but prior to taking this SHIT I used to be able to have sex 7, 8 , 9, 10 times a night!!!! I swear on my eyes I am not lying, so I know my test was probably close to the upper limit of normal range, now I can only go once, and I need at least 2 days to recharge. Pathetic.. I still feel very lethargic, not as bad as before.I am tired all the time, I feel like a fucking girl because I am down all the time, and I have gotten weak beyond belief. Another thing I should mention is that me being an idiot I took double the dosing of Mdrol, because I am a big guy and my mindset was that usually for other OTC supps I have to do that to get effect. They say one learns best from experience, guys if any of you are contemplating taking this, please learn from my plight so you dont have to go through this. I was dating a girl, she ended up leaving me because I couldnt do my duties as a man..Pathetic
So please any help will be appreciated! I asked a couple people at my gym, and one said that I should take Trib stacked with DHEA. Another guy suggested taking HCG.....Sorry for the bad grammar and cursing, this has been an emotional roller coaster that I am eager to get off of.

Blood work results:
tinyurl.com/6bavt7u

tinyurl.com/5usz6ra

 

[mich29]

Ok so the following is a bit complicated so bear with me. Around June of last year (2010) I decided to try my first cycle of anything, I opted to go with Mdrol, and I hate to admit it against the recommendations of other users in this group. I took it for 6 weeks, and then I did a post cycle therapy (pct) immediately afterward for 6weeks which consisted of: Milk thistle, Formadrol extreme, and Tribulus (higher power nutrition brand). I noticed afterward my sex drive was extremely low, and I felt depressed all the time, along with my pecs felt saggy. So I gave my body about 3 months to work through it itself, to no avail still same symptoms. No morning wood and I was lucky to be able to get a woody once a week! and it was a weak one. So I went online and I ordered ZMA. While taking it I noticed my libido went up a little but not where it should/normally be, and as soon as I stopped taking it, libido went back to square one. So now around December/January I purchased Clomid off of someone and did it for 2 weeks stacked with some Tongkat Ali (similar to tribulus) and my libido felt a little better for a few weeks after that, but then it dropped again. Took off from everything again letting my system recoup and it got a tiny bit better, but again no where it should be. Finally went to the doctor at the begining of March and got blood work done, today I went in to go over it with her and my Test level, although in the normal range she found it to be low. 402 to be exact.
So my question is what can I do to bring it up to where it used to be? Guys I am not trying to boast or sound full of shit but prior to taking this SHIT I used to be able to have sex 7, 8 , 9, 10 times a night!!!! I swear on my eyes I am not lying, so I know my test was probably close to the upper limit of normal range, now I can only go once, and I need at least 2 days to recharge. Pathetic.. I still feel very lethargic, not as bad as before.I am tired all the time, I feel like a fucking girl because I am down all the time, and I have gotten weak beyond belief. Another thing I should mention is that me being an idiot I took double the dosing of Mdrol, because I am a big guy and my mindset was that usually for other OTC supps I have to do that to get effect. They say one learns best from experience, guys if any of you are contemplating taking this, please learn from my plight so you dont have to go through this. I was dating a girl, she ended up leaving me because I couldnt do my duties as a man..Pathetic
So please any help will be appreciated! I asked a couple people at my gym, and one said that I should take Trib stacked with DHEA. Another guy suggested taking HCG.....Sorry for the bad grammar and cursing, this has been an emotional roller coaster that I am eager to get off of.

Blood work results:
tinyurl.com/6bavt7u

tinyurl.com/5usz6ra

first off this needs to be sticky so others will read this and realize first hand what happens when you don't listen to advice.

I'm sorry to hear this bro.your mdrol post cycle therapy (pct) was awful you should have went with clomid or novla. 6 weeks of mdrol is rough.Imo I'd get some Tamoxifen Citrate aka novla and dose it 40,40,20,20,20,20.also what is your age?

the guy that suggested dhea and trib.next time you see this guy hit him in the head with a 45lbs weight dhea is suppessive after awhile and your going to need more than trib for this issue as well.

but seriously research around here to see about different ways to attack this issue bro.I'm sorry to hear what happened to you thats def a rough thing to go through.

I'll bump this for more replies from others.hang in there man.just take this in stride and use it as very very very good learning experience.

 

[superfreak]

first off this needs to be sticky so others will read this and realize first hand what happens when you don't listen to advice.

I'm sorry to hear this bro.your mdrol pct was awful you should have went with clomid or novla. 6 weeks of mdrol is rough.Imo I'd get some Tamoxifen Citrate aka novla and dose it 40,40,20,20,20,20.also what is your age?

the guy that suggested dhea and trib.next time you see this guy hit him in the head with a 45lbs weight dhea is suppessive after awhile and your going to need more than trib for this issue as well.

but seriously research around here to see about different ways to attack this issue bro.I'm sorry to hear what happened to you thats def a rough thing to go through.

I'll bump this for more replies from others.hang in there man.just take this in stride and use it as very very very good learning experience.

Yea I def agree with you in making it into a sticky, if others can learn from my mishap i'd be more than willing! Yea I looked and all I can find is info on pct for immediately after the cycle, not for 9 months after. I dont know if that would affect requirements for what to take. So if I were to do the nolvadex, for how many weeks should I take it for? 6 weeks everyday at that dosing listed above? and do I have to take tribulus along with it?
I actually did take some Clomid afterward, months after I took the cycle and I only took it for 2 weeks, one pill daily stacked with Tongkat Ali (similar to trib)


I recently turned 26 (end of February)

Lol and in regards to the guy that told me to take the DHEA, this is why I am posting on a forum like this and waiting for a consensus on what to take..Dont wanna make things worse!!

What do you think of the suggestion of taking HCG?

Oh and thank you for taking time to read and help me with my dilemma, deeply appreciated!!

 

[superfreak]

Bump

 

[BigBlackguy]

Bump

You need to get bloodwork done, ASAP. I doubt you have baselines, but if you do that works wonders.

You can also try using a SERM or for OTC the Testosterone Recovery Stack. But honestly... blood work is the only way to see what is going on.

Some of the sponsors on here are TRT/HRT guys, they can probably help as well (to analyze blood work, etc.).

 

[superfreak]

You need to get bloodwork done, ASAP. I doubt you have baselines, but if you do that works wonders.

You can also try using a SERM or for OTC the Testosterone Recovery Stack. But honestly... blood work is the only way to see what is going on.

Some of the sponsors on here are TRT/HRT guys, they can probably help as well (to analyze blood work, etc.).

I already have blood work done, the links are at the bottom of the original post.