Need help substituting something on my cycle

blueboy10

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Introduction, Hello, I was a member/reader on freakz for a while but they are gone now. I have done 2 cycles so far. 6'3 235 16-18%bf but currently doing a local bootcamp 3 days a week and gym 4 days a week. in the event of this would probably cut one bootcamp and add another gym day. (too many ladies in the boot camp)

Last year I was on a cycle that was almost all Rogue Labs. Needless to say they are not around anymore that I can find and their rep seems to be in the toilet.

Problem is the person who set up my list was killed and I don't have anyone to ask about this locally and it seems the forums are pretty wary about giving out advise, so if you can, I'd appreciate it. It was a 4 month cycle, and the last 1.5 months were basically 2 things that were "Blends"

Things on the list.....................throughout the cycle total ml's used
TP100 50mg/ml........................20.5
Laurabolin 25mg/ml...................16
Omna 125mg/ml........................11
EQ 200mg/ml........................... 16
Test E 200ml/ml........................15
Dual Blend 200mg/ml..................22
Tri Blend 300mg/ml....................23

the things I cant find were their Dual-Blend and Tri-Blend...
according to their label,
Dual Blend 200mg/ml - Tprop / NPP
Tri-Blend 300mg/ml = Tren / Tprop / Masteron

Now besides ordering everything individually and trying to guess mixture ratios, is there anything else I can sub in for these two? it was basically M-W-F 1ml of each for the last 1.5 month with the final week as pretty much m-t-w-t-f 1ml ea.

Here is the only thing I know, my first cycle (which i dont have on paper anymore) I responded well to TP and EQ, and not so much the tren, while my friend responded much better to the tren.

If anyone is willing I have a detailed word doc calendar that breaks it all down day by day if you want to see what/when things were. I just really need advise so i dont guess and screw up and die.

Also for the record, im not trying to get giant, just a bit bigger or keep the same weight and lose more bf/stay pumped more.

Any help is appreciated. Ive been trying to get answers for 3 months, and still nothing,
 
Lurabolin is a very long deca ester I suppose what you could do is

Dual blend=3ml PW for week 1~8 ish?
EQ 600mg PW for 16weeks or however long you want to run it
Tri blend week 8~16 at 3ml PW
Extra tren would be helpful in there but with EQ in the cycle I doubt you'll notice anymore gains/weight loss

Not sure exactly how to do the cycle because I'mnot sure how many vials you've got, seems to me you're using a lot of previous vials from past cycles?

Would definitely use test/tren/masteron in your case throughout the cycle, never used EQ myself but I'm hoping to add it in the next 2months or so.Deca isn't really needed if you got EQ to help with joints and collagen synthesis.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Im not using any old bottles, was going to go all new, but the cycle i was on calls for things i cannot find anymore.. the dual / tri blend are unavailable to me now.. everything else i can still get. Just needing to know what to swap in, instead of dual/tri.

I tried to post the ML's used in the cycle, but without posting the whole 3.5 months "day by day" i understand it is hard to tell.

The dual/tri were pretty much the last month and half after the other stuff had its time to kick in. I know it started with quick acting while introducing slow acting.

I think in your comment, you may have thought that I still have dual/tri but I do not. I need to swap in something that would account for about 45ml of those drugs.

I posted my old "schedule" if anyone willing to help if that helps deduce what was going on.
 
sorry about your friend. what exactly do you want to know? i read that shit four times and its still unclear... break it down to bullets.

the advise you get hear is much better than what u would get locally... they'll tell you to take all of it at the same time and not to run a pct.
 
Sorry... Simplified..

I liked my last cycle. everything went well, and I would like to do it again, but rogue labs is not around, so i cannot get Dual/Tri blend from them anymore.

1: Is there another blend that would be comparable to their Dual/Tri blend as far as ingredients.
2: If not, what should i substitute in their place?
3: If that whole setup is overkill (someone pointed out that there is way too many ingredients in the list) any other suggestions?
 
Well I dont know of a blend that will be the exact same unless you brew it yourself.Anyhow the compound would be the same whether it's in a blend or a separate oil solution and with that being said:-

(TP=test prop?)
That shit is too complicated I'll just simplify it.


Week 1~4 or week1~6 Testosterone-propionate at 100mg EoD
Week 1~14 Test-enanthate 600mg/PW
Week 1~10 deca at 300mg/PW (Or laurabolin EOD 100mg)
Week 1~13 Equipose 800mg/PW
Forget about all the blends and cidotest and all that shit, stick to the same ester and either kickstart with a short one or an oral.
Week 14~15 Test-prop 100mg EOD
Week 16~19++ PCT/recovery period (clomid...etc)
Clen run it however makes you happy, if you need it.
 
just so i understand what you are suggesting... the very first week would be 100 TP, 600Teth 100laura and 800 EQ? so week one would have 1600mg? i may have misunderstood the weekly dosages as all of them were "week 1-X"



your suggestion...
Week 1~4 or week 1~6 Testosterone-propionate at 100mg EoD
Week 1~14 test-enanthate 600mg/PW
Week 1~10 deca at 300mg/PW (Or laurabolin EOD 100mg)
Week 1~13 Equipose 800mg/PW
Forget about all the blends and cidotest and all that shit, stick to the same ester and either kickstart with a short one or an oral.
Week 14~15 test-prop 100mg EOD

im just clarifying, it seems like a lot at the start..
 
just so i understand what you are suggesting... the very first week would be 100 TP, 600Teth 100laura and 800 EQ? so week one would have 1600mg? i may have misunderstood the weekly dosages as all of them were "week 1-X"



your suggestion...
Week 1~4 or week 1~6 Testosterone-propionate at 100mg EoD
Week 1~14 test-enanthate 600mg/PW
Week 1~10 deca at 300mg/PW (Or laurabolin EOD 100mg)
Week 1~13 Equipose 800mg/PW
Forget about all the blends and cidotest and all that shit, stick to the same ester and either kickstart with a short one or an oral.
Week 14~15 test-prop 100mg EOD

im just clarifying, it seems like a lot at the start..


Im saying stacking testosterone propionate with testosterone enanthate as you dont have anything for a kickstart, so you use that instead.Safest and most effective method.

Testosterone propionate at 100mg EoD=350mg per week, as testosterone enanthate levels peak later on in the cycle (unless you front load for the first two weeks at double the dosage)
I'd stick to deca at 300mg per week or Laura again, EoD=every other day=100mg EoD----->350mg/Per week
Eq I would dose between 600mg--->800mg but not lower than 500mg.
Last two weeks I put down testosterone-propionate again because it's a faster acting ester, as you wait for the slow acting esters to clear you'll still have some strong androgens floating to help you make more gains (if possible) or maybe even cut down some fat before PCT, or do a deload I don't know whatever your goal is it'll help you achieve it.

Of course the test-p at the front and back can be substituted with something else, like say tren-acetate or an oral AAS like dianabol/anavar/anadrol...etc its a matter of choice in the end.Although Injectables in the end are safer and effective, though if you can throw an oral at the end of the cycle that would be a good idea (given that test-p will take about 5days to clear your system)
 
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