Needing your advise for my personal bulking and cutting cycles.

michamel

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my stats: age 21. 5'8 190pounds 1st cycle.

for my bulking cycle I'm wanting to use deca d/ test cyp.

and my cutting cycle I'm wanting to use winstrol/ test prop

I also want to use nolvadex for an antiester

my issue is I don't know how much to take of each. when to take each. When to stack. How long to bulk how long to cut. How long between bulking and cutting and when to take the nolvadex


I have done lots of research but It's best to ask someone for their personal opinion about my personal cycles. Thanx
 
my stats: age 21. 5'8 190pounds 1st cycle.

for my bulking cycle I'm wanting to use deca d/ test cyp.

and my cutting cycle I'm wanting to use winstrol/ test prop

I also want to use nolvadex for an antiester

my issue is I don't know how much to take of each. when to take each. When to stack. How long to bulk how long to cut. How long between bulking and cutting and when to take the nolvadex


I have done lots of research but It's best to ask someone for their personal opinion about my personal cycles. Thanx

An antiester huh? A lot of research?!

Dude your 21 don't do this. If you do knock it off with this " cutting cycle" bullshit.

Diet makes you cut not the chemicals. Winstrol just robs your body of water weight, especially taking it from joints and other areas that need it badly. Winstrol (winny) is for PRESHOW ONLY. Look up the joint problems and ligament/tendon problems it leads too. You do not want it.

There is no such thing as an antiester. Your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be arimidex OR aromasin.

You have not researched long enough buddy, just relax and find more info. Your natural test is so high still I would put it off for a few years (23). If your not gonna listen to that try test @ 500mg per week.
Use deca and test for cycle # 2, you need to learn how you react to test 1st. GL
 
I always think bloodwork before hand would be a good idea in this situation. That way you can see what you are (not) wasting.
 
An antiester huh? A lot of research?!

Dude your 21 don't do this. If you do knock it off with this " cutting cycle" bullshit.

Diet makes you cut not the chemicals. Winstrol just robs your body of water weight, especially taking it from joints and other areas that need it badly. Winstrol (winny) is for PRESHOW ONLY. Look up the joint problems and ligament/tendon problems it leads too. You do not want it.

There is no such thing as an antiester. Your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be arimidex OR aromasin.

You have not researched long enough buddy, just relax and find more info. Your natural test is so high still I would put it off for a few years (23). If your not gonna listen to that try test @ 500mg per week.
Use deca and test for cycle # 2, you need to learn how you react to test 1st. GL
erectusmaximus-

I was going to use nolvadex as an anitestrogen cuz I've heard testosterone can easily change into estrogen. My cutting cycle would be for losing all my water weight and keeping all the muscle I've gained after bulking. But if you don't thing eather are necessary, I'm all for it. I'm up to all suggestions. You said 500mg of test cypionate a week. For how many weeks? Also I hear using the pyramid system is best. What are ur suggestions on that.

by the way thank you so much for ur advice, I highly appreciate it.
 
erectusmaximus-

I was going to use nolvadex as an anitestrogen cuz I've heard testosterone can easily change into estrogen. My cutting cycle would be for losing all my water weight and keeping all the muscle I've gained after bulking. But if you don't thing eather are necessary, I'm all for it. I'm up to all suggestions. You said 500mg of test cypionate a week. For how many weeks? Also I hear using the pyramid system is best. What are ur suggestions on that.

by the way thank you so much for ur advice, I highly appreciate it.
nolvadex does NOT prevent testosterone from converting to estrogen , nolvas job is to block estrogen from breast tissue receptors and it wont do anything to stop bloat.

pyramid went out in the 80's lol test eth or cyp at 400-600 mg a week for 10-12 weeks , start pct 2 weeks after the last injection and run clomid at 50 mg a day for 3-4 weeks . if you want a anti estrogen get aromaisn and run 12.5-25 mg a day from start of cycle through pct.
 
thank you dawg. That seems like a well planned cycle. But I'm still open to suggestions. Also. I thought that pyramid is recommended so you can slowly stop. So you don't just stop cold turkey, since ur body is used to a high intake.
 
thank you dawg. That seems like a well planned cycle. But I'm still open to suggestions. Also. I thought that pyramid is recommended so you can slowly stop. So you don't just stop cold turkey, since ur body is used to a high intake.

the pyramid was used YEARS ago before people knew about pct
 
dawg, when would I start clomid? And I don't need the the antiesrogen, correct? But if I do I'd have to use both premarin and midol together?
 
dawg, when would I start clomid? And I don't need the the antiesrogen, correct? But if I do I'd have to use both premarin and midol together?

the Anavar (var) / midol is my signature thats a joke making fun of WEENIES who run Anavar (var) only cycles because they are afraid of a tiny little needle.

pct for cyp or eth = clomid at 50 mg a day for 3-4 weeks and starts 2 weeks after the last injection.

if you run a antiestrogen use aromaisn from day 1 , start at 6.25-12.5 mg a day and adjust it up if necessary , run aromaisn through pct.
 
your too young...stick to natural test boosters (bridge) or rs transederm and nutrition practitioner (need2slin)....p.m. me if you want to make some crazy natural gains
 
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