New cycle want opinions

[Crusader]

I'm planning on using Test P with T-bol for 8 weeks. Then run Test P with either Tren-A or Tren-E for another 8 weeks, I'm leaning more towards Tren-A . I don't like the water retention I've experienced with some of the gear I've tried.

 

[DADAWG]

your not giveing us any info on stats / doses / etc.

 

[Crusader]

I'm 51yrs.,6'1" 220lbs bf 11%. Been in the gym for some years now.
What I'm planning on is Test P/ 75mg eod
Tbol 30mg /ed for 8 weeks.

I will then drop the Tbol and use Test P with Tren for 8 weeks.

The Tren dosage will depend on whether I use an acetate or enanthate ester.

 

[DADAWG]

I'm 51yrs.,6'1" 220lbs bf 11%. Been in the gym for some years now.
What I'm planning on is Test P/ 75mg eod
Tbol 30mg /ed for 8 weeks.

I will then drop the Tbol and use Test P with Tren for 8 weeks.

The Tren dosage will depend on whether I use an acetate or enanthate ester.

i would run the tren 1st . its a short ester and tren is hard to recover from so it would be out of your system when the cycle is over

 

[Liftbig11]

Yes you would start to tren on week 1 for sure. So your looking at this.

Test P 16/wks
Tren 12 wks

then the rest others will chime in. Also we need cycle history.

 

[Crusader]

I have used:
Test C
Test E
EQ
Halo
NPP
Winny

Strength and size went up and my weight got to 241lbs. My pct is HCG,proviron and clomid. I maintain quite a bit of the strength and lose the water weight after cycling off. I would like to make gains in size but stay as lean as possible.

 

[Dragon_MD]

I agree with starting with tren. I am also gonna say use the tren A over the E for your first run with tren. That way if you get sides you don't like or can't tolerate, you'll have it out of your system quickly, rather than weeks. Never tried t-bol, so no opinion on that.

Also, at 51, 16 weeks will be a tough recovery. Are you on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)? Do you plan to be?

 

[Liftbig11]

I would also suggest to run your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle and not post cycle therapy (pct) as it does suppress your HPTA. Something you dont want to do during post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[Dragon_MD]

I would also suggest to run your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle and not post cycle therapy (pct) as it does suppress your HPTA. Something you dont want to do during post cycle therapy (pct).

+1, what are your plans for post cycle therapy (pct)? Ancillaries?

I suggest the hcg, aromasin or letro as needed, and prami. Might not need the prami, but I love it. It is a tough one to get right and use to though. But well worth it.

 

[Crusader]

+1, what are your plans for PCT? Ancillaries?

I suggest the hcg, aromasin or letro as needed, and prami. Might not need the prami, but I love it. It is a tough one to get right and use to though. But well worth it.

I have used aromasin before. I am currently using clomid with proviron and HCG.

No opinions on using Tbol?

 

[Liftbig11]

Yeah prami I will def be getting here pretty soon. Dont use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) sir.

 

[Dragon_MD]

Be patient with the prami. I didn't get it right till my 2nd attempt. I actually responded much better ramping up quicker than others. This has also been a few other experiences I have noticed.

 

[Dragon_MD]

Yeah prami I will def be getting here pretty soon. Dont use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) sir.

And I should have added, that was for during cycle. I agree not use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for post cycle therapy (pct). Or letro, as it will have a rebound effect. If you use letro, switching to aromasin is Ideal after to prevent this.

 

[Biggin]

Test-P 100mgs/eod.

Tren-A 50-75mgs/eod.

T-bol 40-60mgs/ed.

 

[Crusader]

Test-P 100mgs/eod.

Tren-A 50-75mgs/eod.

T-bol 40-60mgs/ed.

Biggin,
Are you saying to run all three at the same time?

 

[Biggin]

Yep!

 

[Liftbig11]

Woah biggin you are crazy i cant believe it all three at the same time !!!!

 

[Biggin]

That's a good cycle Imo.

 

[cubmuscla]

i am wonderin if anyone out there has hit ansomone hgh? if you could give me some feedback it would b greatly appreciated

 

[Dragon_MD]

That's a good cycle Imo.

I agree except I never ran T-bol. But have done same with Winstrol (winny), var, and dbol. All great cycles.