new gear just arrived!!!!!!?

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Matt0071

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Same mg's, same diet, same training
This is my experiment from one lab to another
Test 250/week, 150mg eod tren a
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Meal 1
1 cup egg whites (8 eggs), 1 scoop iso pro, 1 cup oatmeal, *1 tsp natty pb

Meal 2
6oz chicken breast, 90g brown rice, 1 tsp natty pb

Meal 3 ( pre workout)Same as meal 1

Meal 4 ( post workout)150g lean ground beef, 85g uncooked pasta

Meal 5 6oz steak, 12 oz yam

Meal 6 ( before bed)Same as meal 1

Cals 3600
Protein 320
Carbs 360
Fat 90

Current weight 214
Height 5'10
 
I am assuming you aren't happy with you gains is why youre switching labs, whats you training look like Matt, how many days off are you taking? How long do u spend in the gym?
 
I am assuming you aren't happy with you gains is why youre switching labs, whats you training look like Matt, how many days off are you taking? How long do u spend in the gym?

No wasnt happy with the results

Monday chest- incline bench, flat bench, db incline fly's, cable fly's
Tues back- deadlifts, hammer strength pulldowns, bb rows, wide grip seated rows, db pullovers
Wed- shoulders- bb press, machine press, db side lat raise, db rear delt, bb front delt raise, cable side lat raise
Legs/traps- leg curls, ham curls, leg press, squats, bb shrugs, behind the back bb shrugs, upright rows
Bi and tri- tri rope pushdowns, dips, db skull crushers, close grip bench, biceps- bb 21's, incline db curls, db one arm preacher curls

All routines are pretty much 3 sets at 10-12 reps
Spend anywhere from an 1 1/2 to 3 hours in the gym, been limiting my time the last few weeks in the gym to an 1 1/2 hours there
 
No wasnt happy with the results


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What you are talking about? not asking for your source lol asking which lab you are using out of curiously.... is there some big secret? Maybe you should not have mentioned your using a new lab if it's big secret ;)

Opps, not talking sources bro
 
Yea I have to agree . That routine would be about 50 min. And are you seriously hitting arms every day and expecting growth. Training 101 rest = growth.
 
No wasnt happy with the results

Monday chest- incline bench, flat bench, db incline fly's, cable fly's
Tues back- deadlifts, hammer strength pulldowns, bb rows, wide grip seated rows, db pullovers
Wed- shoulders- bb press, machine press, db side lat raise, db rear delt, bb front delt raise, cable side lat raise
Legs/traps- leg curls, ham curls, leg press, squats, bb shrugs, behind the back bb shrugs, upright rows
Bi and tri- tri rope pushdowns, dips, db skull crushers, close grip bench, biceps- bb 21's, incline db curls, db one arm preacher curls

All routines are pretty much 3 sets at 10-12 reps
Spend anywhere from an 1 1/2 to 3 hours in the gym, been limiting my time the last few weeks in the gym to an 1 1/2 hours there

IMO your doing too much, Im not hatin' by any means, but I think there are too many sets and reps going on there. I used to pretty much do a very similar routine, not to a T but close. I was growing but not at the rate I wanted to and I thought maybe it was my diet or gear was bunk or whatever. What it was was overtraining, spending too much time in the gym. It was something I even thought about cuz I love being at the gym so I fuckin spent time there. And I had been doing this volume style of training forever so my body had no need to grow. I completely switched up my training, cut my dose of gear in half and grew like a fuckin weed dude. Try switching up your routine and rest period between sets to shorten your workouts and make them more intense. It all about quality not quantity. Sometimes we think fuck the gear I have is shit, when in reality its as something as simple as we need a change in our routine, Your diet looks fine, the gear should def be working. The muscle doesnt need to be torn that much to grow, and there is also a point where to much damage can be done and that will hinder growth and also cause scar tissue to form and all that good stuff. Just some food for thought man,
 
IMO your doing too much, Im not hatin' by any means, but I think there are too many sets and reps going on there. I used to pretty much do a very similar routine, not to a T but close. I was growing but not at the rate I wanted to and I thought maybe it was my diet or gear was bunk or whatever. What it was was overtraining, spending too much time in the gym. It was something I even thought about cuz I love being at the gym so I fuckin spent time there. And I had been doing this volume style of training forever so my body had no need to grow. I completely switched up my training, cut my dose of gear in half and grew like a fuckin weed dude. Try switching up your routine and rest period between sets to shorten your workouts and make them more intense. It all about quality not quantity. Sometimes we think fuck the gear I have is shit, when in reality its as something as simple as we need a change in our routine, Your diet looks fine, the gear should def be working. The muscle doesnt need to be torn that much to grow, and there is also a point where to much damage can be done and that will hinder growth and also cause scar tissue to form and all that good stuff. Just some food for thought man,

Thanks man I'll def give that a go
 
For shit sakes though bro, if your not happy with the results from this new lab, send the unopened vials to me. I'll dispose if them properly.
Pm sent !!

On another note, like a previous poster pointed out, switching up reps, sets has made a difference in some of my workouts as well.

Doña little research on pyramiding sets . Ie, after warmup say for bb presses, hit 225x 10, add 10lbs then hit for 7 reps, add 10 more the go for 4-5.

I don't understand how or why, but changing shit up a little can and has woket wonders.

Another idea is giving your lagging body parts their own day in he gym.

I used to work shoulders with chest but now I do shoulder work and through in some trap exercises as well. Upright rows works both.

Legs IMO should have their own day.

All differences aside I wish you well with your goals Matt
 
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I had my cals up to 4200 adding more carbs in to get from 3600 to 4200
Now my question is should I limit my carb intake, increase my fats, or does that diet look alright, looking for lean mass, limited fat gain
 
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