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Probizanski

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I am 23 years old and have been at it naturally for a while (4 years). I have consulted with a great friend of mine who competes in physique and also trains. My room mate did a cycle of sust 300 twice a week and saw great results (gained 17 pounds and got very noticable gains).

So after talking to him he said he wanted a tighter feel all around so i said thats what i want.

He sent me this

Sust 300
Tren 100

Twice a week 1cc per each stick

My diet is

Meal 1-5: 35g protein, 50g *carbs

Meal 6: oz steak or salmon and a salad with light dressing

post workout drink of:
35g whey Isolate

50g waxy maize or pop tarts, rice crispies your choice

No cardio.

Is this a good cycle or am i wasting my money. I already purchased but ide like to hear other opinions. Please no doggin on me here im just looking for good seasoned input.
 
Your on the cusp of being too young to start a cycle first off, secondly whoever recommended you do tren for your first cycle is an idiot and i would not listen to him anymore on AAS use.
Your first should be test only for 12 so you can see how your body reacts and side effects etc.

No AI planned?
NO PCT mentioned?
HCG use?

ALot missing here
 
Thats kind of what i was getting out of this plan. And after reading some threads on here its been getting to me. I just cant see him screwing me over seeing as he does this for tons of clients on a daily.
 
What about PCT? No mention of that
Bloodwork getting done pre, during and post?

Sustanon is tough for first cycle too because of the short and long esters in it, may be hard to dial in E2.
Just because someone recommends something to alot of people/ clients doesnt mean he is right. Personally I dont think he should be recommending anything to anyone based on what your saying.
Theres a guy on here 3J Nutrition, he would change your body dramatically with his diets. Would be money well spent rather than screwing yourself up on a messed up cycle
 
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I think its a bad idea because it doesnt seem you have any idea off the bat of running a proper cycle from blood to pct etc. Tren should be run if at all toward 4-5 cycle not first. As i said with sustanon unless youve done test in the past and know how to dial in will be tough with short and long esters.
You need a simple test for a minimum of 12 weeks in my opinion for first cycle, with AI on hand (enough for full cycle) HCG and enough PCT stock to properly finish off and restart your body.
From what it sounds like is you have 10 weeks worth the way you are asking about running anyway.
I would wait , get the right stuff and do it right! not what you want to hear im sure but its the truth brother
 
Well after dropping close to 650 bucks youre right ha not what i want to hear. I just feel a bit screwed considering after further research on what i recieved its tren ace as well so from my knowledge (not much about this lol) pinning twice a week of tren ace is useless.
 
shouldve gained knowledge before you bought. Tren ace is ED or some run it EOD.
Im sure by now you have heard and read other posts that the info you got from this so called "experienced" guy wasnt such good info. Worry about your own health, dont let someone else make decisions for you...you will be sorry you did
 
so what that you've spent 650 bucks ,, is that worth fucking yourself up over? take the gear and store it in a cool dry place for a year or two for another cycle down the road. Then plan on going the smart route and waiting til your 25 or if you do decide to run gear, start with a single ester test only compound . Test E or Test Cyp. Run it for 10-12 weeks at around 500mg, run it with an AI and HCG and have a proper pct planned out and purchased; its really that simple
 
mightysatchmo said:
What about PCT? No mention of that
Bloodwork getting done pre, during and post?

Sustanon is tough for first cycle too because of the short and long esters in it, may be hard to dial in E2.
Just because someone recommends something to alot of people/ clients doesnt mean he is right. Personally I dont think he should be recommending anything to anyone based on what your saying.
Theres a guy on here 3J Nutrition, he would change your body dramatically with his diets. Would be money well spent rather than screwing yourself up on a messed up cycle
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thanks for the kind words M,

yes, if youre interested in my services email me at 3jdiet@gmail.com

here is a link to my website: 3J's Nutrition

heres a before and after of a recent client just to give you an idea

 
Be sure to read all you can here and ask away instead of asking that kucklehead that has "tons" of clients and that just wants your money and cares fuck all about your health.
If he is such a "great friend" than you better think about who you friend up with and
Tell him to come here and read up too.
 
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Shit the guy who told you this doesn't have a clue as to what he is doing. He probably was trying to help, truthfully but it's all bro-science.

As said Tren first cycle at 23 what a bad time you will have. Do you know anything about the sides of Tren?
Scrap that idea. Test only and learn what and how to cycle.
Also Sust on your first cycle is garage IMOP. I don't recommend any blends. If I were you I'd hold off and get more educated on AAS. Read all the sticky threads on here where you come in on the forum. What you spent will be money in the bank for future cycles. Or sell it to your buddy, ha!



PS: read all the rules or Admins/Mods will get you...:wavey: lol
 
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3J would be a great start... I didn't start using gear until I was in my 40's and
people thought I was taking steroids when I was in my mid to late 20's.

The best thing you can do is maximize your natural self... plus reading the forum
and taking notes.

I'm 49 and a lot of people think I'm in my 30's, which is from reading the shit out of
everything on natural training... while expanding my knowledge on steroids far before
I decided, and knew the timing was right.

Welcome to the forum - stay active... you're in good company!
 
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