NEW TRT PATIENT need help

[throwleatherfw]

I was just put on Test Cyp for low T levels were 331, I am 31 yr old about 285lbs I am very active in martial arts and crossfit. I am just a big guy and always have been, all signs and symptoms related to low T, Internist put me on 100mg/ml injection every 3wks. Is this normal to start out? I feel nothing at all. Complete blood work shows all normal for everything. Low t and vitamin D this just sounds like an odd dose and I dont want to waste the next 6weeks before blood test. I really want to feel better. Any help is greatly appreciated

 

[Mprtz]

That dose is pretty much absurdly low, especially at your weight. The interval of 3 weeks is also MUCH too long.
100mg per week would be a better start, even then you'd very likely be increasing it to get to levels that are going to make you feel a lot better.

What will likely happen at that dose is it will boost your T a bit in the short term (though you probably won't feel it), but once your own production is suppressed you'll be lower than your natural 331 in the third week after your shot, maybe a lot lower.

 

[throwleatherfw]

I just dont want to go in 6 weeks and then him say ok well that didnt work lets make it EOW, i want to inject every week but dont want my next blood test to show improvement and then he will think that original dose is just right. And then I wont be able to get my refills from pharmacy. How do I overcome this? I am also 6'2 forgot to add my height before. This is just such a shiitty situation

 

[Spunkey71]

I agree, you need to run away from this doctor as quickly as you can and find a knowledgeable one.

 

[Mprtz]

I just dont want to go in 6 weeks and then him say ok well that didnt work lets make it EOW, i want to inject every week but dont want my next blood test to show improvement and then he will think that original dose is just right. And then I wont be able to get my refills from pharmacy. How do I overcome this? I am also 6'2 forgot to add my height before. This is just such a shiitty situation

Just want to confirm that we are really talking about 100mg every 3 weeks, or 33mg per week. Since you wrote "100mg/ml" above maybe there is some confusion. If that is it, I don't think I'm exaggerating to say that's the lowest dose of injectable I've ever heard of someone starting on.

Honestly, with a doctor that aims THAT low, I really wonder if it would not be better not to start because it will be a battle to even get somewhere reasonable. It just looks like a recipe for failure.

Just for contrast, I started at 200mg per week, 6 times that dose, and I weighed over a hundred pounds less. At that dose, it took a few weeks to feel anything, then things picked up in a hurry.

 

[throwleatherfw]

I have a 200mg/ml 10ml vial so i take .5cc every 3 weeks which makes it the 100mg correct?

 

[Mprtz]

I have a 200mg/ml 10ml vial so i take .5cc every 3 weeks which makes it the 100mg correct?

Unfortunately, that is correct.

It also means that that 10ml vial should last you 60 weeks, when it probably carries an expiration of 4 weeks once opened...

 

[Megatron28]

You are on a terrible protocol. You are going to feel worse than you currently do. I would call IMT, our forum sponsor, it I were you. They will get you squared away.

Herr is some reading on TRT for you. This will help you be a better advocate for yourself.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/testosterone-replacement-therapy/662394-basic-trt-overview.html

 

[throwleatherfw]

Im thinkin of not taking it anymore and just show that what he dosed is useless and then get amount and frequency increased, and continue to do that until I get a normal starting dose agree? Ill have to be very patient but it might just be worth it thoughts?

 

[Megatron28]

Im thinkin of not taking it anymore and just show that what he dosed is useless and then get amount and frequency increased, and continue to do that until I get a normal starting dose agree? Ill have to be very patient but it might just be worth it thoughts?

What are you going to tell your doctor when he asks why your LH and FSH are not shut down? Unless your doctor is retarded he will know that you are trying to scam him. And let's just say you do manage to scam him -- do you really want to be treated by a retard?

 

[throwleatherfw]

Thank you for the info and comments, greatly appreciated. I am calling monday to schedule appt asap to discuss dose and frequency and also to ensure nothing else is needed (other tests) i will also bring up the AI to him as well anything else i should be aware of?

 

[Spunkey71]

While you are at it you might want to ask him about HCG.

 

[Megatron28]

Thank you for the info and comments, greatly appreciated. I am calling monday to schedule appt asap to discuss dose and frequency and also to ensure nothing else is needed (other tests) i will also bring up the AI to him as well anything else i should be aware of?

You don't need an AI on 33mg/week!

Good luck getting things straightened out. And don't forget IMT - you will see their ad to the right of your screen. It doesn't cost anything to talk to them.

 

[Alpin]

Doc is short changing you on a vital hormone. Tell him to go pound salt with his 100 mg/3 weeks dosage.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

100mg 3x week, not every 3 weeks. Before running to another doc, may try see if this doc agrees to 100mg 3x week and try get an AI.

 

[Megatron28]

100mg 3x week, not every 3 weeks. Before running to another doc, may try see if this doc agrees to 100mg 3x week and try get an AI.

100mg of Test three times a week (aka 300mg per week) is very unlikely to put his total testosterone in the normal range. Not many guys go over 200mg per week on TRT.

 

[legitsrs]

I was just put on Test Cyp for low T levels were 331, I am 31 yr old about 285lbs I am very active in martial arts and crossfit. I am just a big guy and always have been, all signs and symptoms related to low T, Internist put me on 100mg/ml injection every 3wks. Is this normal to start out? I feel nothing at all. Complete blood work shows all normal for everything. Low t and vitamin D this just sounds like an odd dose and I dont want to waste the next 6weeks before blood test. I really want to feel better. Any help is greatly appreciated

Either speak to him about it, or find a new doctor.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I meant the least you should be using would be 100mg... I agree he will probably end somewhere around the 150mg per week when it is all sorted out. I was merely making a statement that 100mg E3W will just shut you down.

 

[throwleatherfw]

Thank you all, i will see on monday hopefully i can get in asap this week. I am gonna sugvest 100mg/ml a week with an AI and see what he says. Will this current dose make my labs worse ?

 

[Mprtz]

Thank you all, i will see on monday hopefully i can get in asap this week. I am gonna sugvest 100mg/ml a week with an AI and see what he says. Will this current dose make my labs worse ?

As I wrote above, I believe it will make your levels worse. Not immediately, but once your own production is suppressed.