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Never a good idea to run Deca onn it's own. it will shut down your natural test levels and cause a bunch of problems.

What is your cycle history? is this your first time with AAS?

what's you stats?
 
Yes 1st time. I just want to add half a stone and rip up more than anything. What would u recomend?. I'm 12st 5ft 8. Thanks
 
well if you haven't done any kind of cycle yet then I would run 12-14 weeks of Test E or Test cyp at 500-600mg wk.
 
yes, if it's your first time then you need to find out how your body will handle "gear". Fist cycle is always the best and will get you awesome results so lets do it right.

Tes for 12-14 wks with a solid diet and you'll accomplish a lot!
 
Make sure to run test with it 500mg a week split into two shots. People suggest only test on first cycle since it is the base in every cycle. Also read up on pct.
 
the reason you wanna run test by its self for your first run is if any sides pop up you know its the test.Now if u run decca with it and u get a side it becomes a guessing game.
 
Listen to all these guys Limby. When your new to the game, it's easy to become overly inundated with tons of information from different places. Sometimes it becomes difficult to know who you should listen to. The vets on this board now their stuff!

It is ALWAYS suggested that you run test for your first cycle. 500 mg a week split between two injections is the most commonly recomended dosage (assuming your not running test-prop).

As mentioned earlier, the primary reason for this is that most would agree that test should be the "base" of every cycle. Hardly is a cycle ever run where test is not in it. As you gain expereince and knowledge by hanging around, you may choose to add other AAS to the test base in later cycles. Remeber, for now though, that more does not equall greater gains.

Deca specifically is known to shut peoples natural test down hard. It's unique halflife makes it difficult for even expereinced users to time PCT appropriately. Thats why most users who have had previous expereince stack it with test and run the test a couple of weeks longer than the deca. This technique minimizes the chance of the dreaded "deca-dick"!

This is even more reason not to run it alone or at all for anyone's first cycle. It's not worth taking the chance of being in TRT at your age for the rest of your life because you have developed secondary gonadism. Plus, whats the point of all the gains if your just going to lose them all. That's exactly what would happen if you ran Deca alone. You would get big, come off, not be able to get off (maybe permanently), and then lose all your gains.

Listen to the people on this board and read the sticky's. Run test only and get all your supplies BEFORE you start (including PCT and an AI!).

Hope this helps. Not trying to beat you up or anything. Just trying to give you some good solid advice.

btw - many will say your to young anyway. Especially Crazy Mike! lol. I'm just assuming your mind is already made up.
 
Thanks for the advice lads I have changed my order and now waiting fort the test to come. How many ml should I use a week thanks.
 
ok, would you like to post your age to. it's one of the main things to know before to be advised on steroids.
 
Limby listen to the guys here, like most I received some bro science from the jacked guys I train with. But since I am nerdy I figured I should check the internet before I ran anything. Found this place with real knowledge, saw what the other guys were screwing up on which accounted for the sides I have seen them have over the years. Ask some of those guys about SERM or post cycle therapy (pct), and most will just go hrrrmmm. Follow the stuff here to avoid the complications of AAS. To bad that society isnt different then you could have a legit DR specialist in this and remove the danger and guess work completely. But ahhh that is the silliness of some laws.
 
Thanks for the advice lads I have changed my order and now waiting fort the test to come. How many ml should I use a week thanks.


How tall? BF%??


Depends on what the solution is. You wanna take 500-600mg a week of test.

Some are 250mg per ML others are 300mg per ML. Just simple math.

Lets say you wanna run your test for 12 wks at 500mg per week and you have vials of Test cyp dosed at 250mg per ml/10ml vial

Thats 2500mg per vial.

You wanna run 12 weeks at 500mg per week

12 x 500 = 6000. Means you will need 3 vials

1ml shots twice a week for total of 500mg per week.

Hope that helps.
 
Limby, check out the massive newbie info link in the stickies section, you will have reading there for days to get yourself educated.

The guys are right, test only first cycle. You will have enough going on, no need to complicate things.

How long have you been training?
Can you provide a snapshot of your diet?
 
I have bin training on off for 8 years I was a boxer in the army. Now I'm out I Want concentrate on my size.
 
Listen to these guys and start out with test. If you train right and your diet is good you should see good results.
 
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