newbe just looking for some good input on first cycle

[peroformancexxx]

so i have read a lot on this site and many other sites but still have a lot of questions?

I am 29 6'1 and currently 182 pounds.

I been working out for about 4 years now. 4-5 days a week. I do mix of back and chest and arms and shoulders and every other day abs. also one day of running or biking. my diet is good but after reading many post on here it needs improvement. so to my main question.
wk 1-10 test e 250ml every 4 days
wk 1-5 dbol 25 mg everyday

a lot of people say keep it simple and that's what i am trying to do. So should i just start my cycle and if i start getting bacne and moobs worry then or should i purchase something and start taking it right of the bat. I also don't want to lose my nuts. I don't want to take extra shit if i don't have to. Any help would be much appreciated

 

[Phatbastard]

Like your thought process! take the test out to 12 weeks at that dose drop D-bol to 15 to 20 max threw out cycle as well. UNLESS you start to feel any kind of Gyno or tenderness in the breasts if so stop D-ball imediatly! and if it doesent subside look into some letro

 

[bigherm2121]

Ya I'm on a test cypionate only first cycle. I have a tread out with some good info on it.

 

[FullOnR4p1st]

Im about to start my first cycle with Test E 500mg per week for 10 weeks. Maybe I should look into extending to 12 from what I've been reading. Sorry don't mean to thread jack.

 

[lance 22]

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right not sure if ivedonr this right... but m8 wats ur goals??? u wonna put on the wieght or lose it?? looking at ur work out who'd know... plus if u wonna keep it simple 12 weeks 500mg sust or test c/e....

 

[coltmc45]

Test ONLY for first cycle! 500mg a wk for 10-12 weeks. Drop the dbols. Have aromasin on hand for gyno. Nolva and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct). Run hcg to keep your nuts working. Actually I'd drop it all cuz at 6'1" and 182 your skinny. EAT. If your diet sucks, so will your cycle.

 

[zx14]

Im running a test only cycle here in the next couple of weeks, 500mg a week for 10 weeks, I think thats all Im getting from my source, Ill try to get more..I have nolva and clomid for pct(liquid). I also have stane(aromasin) to take throughout cycle. I had acne as a youngin and figured that might help.. I cant get my hands on any hcg, no matter how much I search, I cant find it...Im 5'8" 194 lbs..

 

[coltmc45]

Im running a test only cycle here in the next couple of weeks, 500mg a week for 10 weeks, I think thats all Im getting from my source, Ill try to get more..I have nolva and clomid for pct(liquid). I also have stane(aromasin) to take throughout cycle. I had acne as a youngin and figured that might help.. I cant get my hands on any hcg, no matter how much I search, I cant find it...Im 5'8" 194 lbs..

Don't hijack threads, start your own.

Cycle looks good though. Looks like you've done your research and are fully prepared! What's your age? Lifting experience? Body fat?

 

[zx14]

yeah, i know..Ill go start a new one..sorry about that..im a f&^%ing retard on the computer...

 

[zx14]

I still cant post a thread for some reason., sorry I hi jacked yours..It wasnt intended..I dont know whats wrong with this...

 

[coltmc45]

yeah, i know..Ill go start a new one..sorry about that..im a f&^%ing retard on the computer...

Ppl tend to get pissy here if you hi jack threads which is understandable. Start it in the reg anabolic forum. You'll ge more responses and advice there bro.

 

[lift818]

Hey man good luck with your results. Sounds like your on the right track to put on some size. I won the Orange County Classic this year & know what your going through. Good luck bud

 

[200mphCrazy]

Good luck..

 

[NoviceNorm]

I would run 500 Test E a week, drop the dbol and pick up something cleaner like Eq and run that at 400-600 a week. Dbols are horrible on the liver and also have a ton of side effects. The Dbols will pump you up quick but you will have considerable water retention and will most likely lose the gains when you quit taking it.

 

[coltmc45]

I would run 500 Test E a week, drop the dbol and pick up something cleaner like Eq and run that at 400-600 a week. Dbols are horrible on the liver and also have a ton of side effects. The Dbols will pump you up quick but you will have considerable water retention and will most likely lose the gains when you quit taking it.

So for his first cycle you're saying not to shoot 1 but 2 compounds? He's not even gonna know what sides he gets off test let alone eq. Dbol's taken in that small of amount aren't gonna bloat him up like crazy especially if he's running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) which I think is a must when taking dbol. Plus I'd like to see your proof that you lose all dbol gains when you stop taking em. Yes you can gain a ton of water on em and then lose a bunch of water weight but your strength gains go through the roof on dbol's which means bigger lifts which means bigger gains (if you know how to train for mass) also dbol's aren't as harsh as ppl say they are. I wouldn't recommend running em for months and months but for a beginner I'd pick a dbol kickstart over throwing eq in the mix any day.

 

[sucio1986]

i was looking to do that same cycle as my next.. thanks for info