Okay, so heres the Lowdown. I am 23 yrs. old. I just got done finished with an 8 week Test Prop only cylce at 400mgs/week. I did nolva for PCT at 40/40/20/20 and I have been done with PCT for a month and I have a pretty high Libido I feel like but I cant seem to get an erection. My nuts feel as if they have definately shrunk a pretty good bit. I went to an endo and got some bloodwork done because I was freaking out that I might have permanently ruined myself and my test levels came back in the 700's. I have never been someone to have low test before or any symptoms as Ive always had sex whenever I wanted to and never had any problems whatsoever. The only other AAS I have ever taken was during last April and May I did a cylce of winstrol tablets at 50mg ED for 4 weeks followed up by a dbol tablets at 50 mg ED for 4 weeks, which was pretty stupid I know but I did not know much about anything or the side effects at the time although I did take a prohormone during christmas break of that year but It did not seem to have any type of affect on anything such as libidio, ability to get an erection, etc. I am currently playing college baseball and Its difficult sometimes not having the energy that I feel like I used to pre cycle and while on cycle which obviouslly on cycle your levels are through the roof. I can actually have sex but its like a once a week type thing and im really not that into it because my erection is not great at all and girls are always trying to hit me up and hangout but I dont even feel like wasting my time with them because I know what will happen. And no, its not physcological. What im wondering is I have been reading alot of research about how clomid can have the ablility to bring your nuts back to size and get you going , and not that size of testicles has much to do with levels but mainly get me back going and feeling like myself again. I know it has some sides but I have honestly learned my lesson and do not want to take any type of AAS ever again due to the effects that it can have on the body and I was trying to just give myself time to recover without putting any more drugs in my body but Im not sure how long that might take and if clomid is not going to set me back anymore I was wondering if it was still worth a try or if I should just give it more time. I know that everyones body is different but I do not feel how there is any way that I have shut myself down so bad that I need to resort to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) especially at my age so that is out of the question because I do not want to have to deal with that. I just want to get back to normal again and get on with my life, I know I have stated that several times but that is all I want to do. I know alot of you out there have some jokes that will probablly come but I am honestly just looking for some serious advice or encouragement from someone out there who might know what this is like because it sucks. And also I dont really want to mess with any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) just because I dont want to be putting a bunch of chemicals in my body and have to deal with worrying about gyno and the right dosage etc. Thanks for anyone who took the time to read this whole thing, I know it was long but I just wanted to state everything that was going on so there wouldnt be a bunch of unanswered questions in my post.
no recovery after pct: still shutdown
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Dr.Phoenix
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1 word i will say , which i repeated many people who didnt recover in here:
NO Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) , NO RECOVERY GUARANTEE
Its because u made PCT with only Nolva , and you didnt have a kick start effect of manufacturing Test in your balls
NO Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) , NO RECOVERY GUARANTEE
Its because u made PCT with only Nolva , and you didnt have a kick start effect of manufacturing Test in your balls
China_Wall
New member
run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 1000iu everyday for a week, wait 5 days, then go on a proper PCT or clomid 50mg/nolva 30mg for 30 days... this should get u back on your game again
alphamale_devon
Project "AlphaMale"
You left clomid out of your classic pct stack. Also It's never to late to try to recover. IMO if you wanna try to avoid testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Then I would go ahead and buy Some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) & Clomid and to a 10 day Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast of 1500mcg a week fuck 1000mcg, then after that take 250mcg 2x a week while taking clomid in the process.
People would stay that's too much of a blast for 10 days, but it's better to be extra sure in your recover then having no recovery at all.
It's not cool to be 23yrs old with small balls and a broke dick hahahaha!!!
That's why we tell younger guys not to do AAS if you don't know what the hell you are doing. IMO if you don't have at least a year research under your belt for doing a proper cycle & Pct then your bound to have a fuck up in the process, always bouncing on different forums making 1 post thread a all your problems with your cycle.(not you but plenty of people do it)
A lot of people regret doing a cycle without enough knowledge before there times.
Experience of other members speak here, not just to be heard but for your safety.
Four1Thr33
One Chance
Wait... I must have missed something. U said u got a blood test with a 700ng. That's pretty high bro for off cycle
juced_porkchop
Moderator
it was onle a 8 week cycle and even if it was logner. you WOULD recover, even if you didnt even use nolva. never mind people saying you wont recover because you didnt use HCG.
yes Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at end of cycle leading upto BUT NOT INTO post cycle therapy (pct) would help out more.
wait a couple months, and if you still feel like this then go to dog and get test levels checked (DONT TELL HIM about stroid use) and what i suspect is its in your head to begin with. because yoru stressin yourself out that your shut off or what ever.
yes Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at end of cycle leading upto BUT NOT INTO post cycle therapy (pct) would help out more.
wait a couple months, and if you still feel like this then go to dog and get test levels checked (DONT TELL HIM about stroid use) and what i suspect is its in your head to begin with. because yoru stressin yourself out that your shut off or what ever.
methos
New member
Running Clomid "might" help, but I have a feeling your T levels aren't the entire problem. Did your doc check your estrogen levels as well as SHBG? You could have T levels even higher than yours and still have low T type symtoms if your estrogen is out of whack. Yah, it's sounds like a mild cycle, and most of us would recover pretty easy from that, but everyone is different. We all react differently to hormone balance and ratios. If your symtoms are caused by high estrogen, then clomid Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) etc could cause further aromitization and exasperate your problem. This is just my opinion but you need more complete bloodwork.
Solid Snake
Getting Big the Ology Way
high estro will give similar effects of low testosterone. Lethargy, ED, sleeping problems, etc. If you got gyno from that cycle you could very well still have high estrogen. Your nolva could have been bunk but ultimately you will need to have it checked by a doctor. I had a similar problem a couple years back. My test was over 1000 but my estrogen was really high too. Doc gave me some arimidex and after a month i felt so much better.
weights=life
TPP, NPP, PRIMO ACE
x2. it takes time bro. i have recovered from cycles with no post cycle therapy (pct)... and if you tested 700ng test levels after post cycle therapy (pct) then you should be fine, i would check estro. i have 350ng test levels off cycle.
weights=life
TPP, NPP, PRIMO ACE
you don't need it. does it help absolutely, is it strongly recommended of course. why not do everything to help ensure a better recovery.
GoldCity
New member
Perfect explanation
meatmonkey
New member
No. Research hmg if the hcg/clomid/Nolvadex don't do it, which they should. You'd probably have to get a doc to write hmg, as I wouldn't know where to buy it. It DID work well for me though. Contains a blend of luteinizing hormone, and follicle stimulating hormone.
HCG is great, but doesn't raise fsh. It also can "desensitize" you if used too often... As for the hmg, 75iu's/day for two weeks, FOLLOWED-not during-by 50mg/day clomid for two weeks. Keep in mind, ALL of this stuff is simply a jump start to a suppressed system. It's no guarantee your production will be returned to normal. Last, if you find a source for hmg, please shoot me a PM.
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meatmonkey
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Agreed. And in my above post about hmg, I'll note it doesn't raise estrogen nearly as much as hcg can. I found a few retailers who have it, but as always, overseas. My luck...
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