Non responder to test?

[gurma]

Hello everybody!!
I am 25 days into my cycle. It consists of test prop. In the first two weeks I shot 350 mg every week, and in the third I bumped it up to 500 mgs.
I haven´t had any noticeable gains. I am eating correctly, training 2 days on 1 day off (for example ten sets for major muscle groups), no cardio and my source seems fine. (checked by a mod)
Naturally, I am a real hardgainer, and by that I mean I can gain fat easily, but extremely difficult to put on muscle. I thought this was due to my genetics, and that a supraphisioloigcal amount of test would help me gain mass (my natural test levals are lowish). Have trained naturally for ten years.
I have read reports in the past of people who do not respond well to test, but can gain well on other substances (remember a guy who said didn´t respond to test but did to tren very well).
Does this make any sense to you? Would you try another AS to finish my cycle together with the test? Which one? (keepd in mind I have balding in my family, and I am on Dutasteride)
Please help, I am quite a bit discouraged!!
Thnaks in advance!!

 

[tednatas]

????????i have no idea but ill put it topside.!^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Bushwacker]

Do you notice any strength gains? Or ablity to maitain pumps longer or pump up easier? Any difference in libido? Normally I can feel the prop immediatly and I'm hornier than a picket fence. Are you injecting deep enough -- you might be injecting into fat which seems to hold some of the test. Have you felt any difference after the first 2 or 3 injections?

 

[Johny J]

It does happen. Ask needsize.

I have seen it myself though. I hooked a guy up with some omnadrens. The guy came back like 6 weeks later saying thy were fake and he was pissed. I had to laugh considering i hooked a couple of my frineds up with them, all from the same big ziplock bag, and everyone else was loving them and offering me fellatio if i could find them some more.

 

[GameOn]

IS this your first cycle? When is the last time you had your test levels checked? How low were you? How many cals are you getting a day?

 

[tednatas]

It does happen. Ask needsize.

I have seen it myself though. I hooked a guy up with some omnadrens. The guy came back like 6 weeks later saying thy were fake and he was pissed. I had to laugh considering i hooked a couple of my frineds up with them, all from the same big ziplock bag, and everyone else was loving them and offering me fellatio if i could find them some more.

fucking felatio. thats classic. yeah true though needsize has said somethings concerning his own personal response to test. i kno wi will cuz ive done 1-test before and to my surprise took to it quite well.

 

[moldytwig]

i gain with test but not like most people. most people swear by test and think deca is sub par compared to test. but for me deca is by far a better AAS. i only use test towards the end of a deca cycle and a few weeks after.
winny does not seem to do much for me either besides make me lose hair. try to get some quality vet deca. by the way...i think you should strongly consider bushwacker's questions and are you getting enough protein?

 

[gurma]

I do notice an increase in libido, but not always. I also had sensitive nipples, mostly at the beggining, and now has calmed down. I am eating around 20 kcals per pound of weight and around 300 grams protein, and I am gaining some fat.
I have a little bit more strength on some exercises, but nothing very alarming, as if I had started taking creatine.
I do feel a little bit more pumped after working out.
I am using 25 g 5/8 pins on quads and shoulders, and pushing them in to the bottom and pressing them there
Thanks for the quick responses!!

 

[simpllyhuge]

maybe you should stop the cycle and try test from another sourcejust to be sure.

 

[Rocket Man]

What made you do prop your first cycle? For a short cycle are what.. Are you hitting yourself EOD ( I hope ) or once a week.. Shit, I wouldn't think you could walk if you only hit yourself once a week... You have been lifting for some time so I take it your not a kid.. So tell us some more about yourself weight and so on....

 

[raw lifter]

I do notice an increase in libido, but not always. I also had sensitive nipples, mostly at the beggining, and now has calmed down. I am eating around 20 kcals per pound of weight and around 300 grams protein, and I am gaining some fat.
I have a little bit more strength on some exercises, but nothing very alarming, as if I had started taking creatine.
I do feel a little bit more pumped after working out.
I am using 25 g 5/8 pins on quads and shoulders, and pushing them in to the bottom and pressing them there
Thanks for the quick responses!!

25x5/8 are ok for the delts, but way too short for your quads....I also gain very little if much at all from test, deca seems to be my choice for mass along with good old d-bol.

Finish your cycle at week 6, go on post cycle therapy (pct) for an additional 6 weeks and start a test/deca/d-bol cycle, you should be satisfied!

btw, keep test where deca is involved, it will keep you little friend happy!

 

[Powerhouse9]

either fake gear or you aren't eating enough protein and calories. Its hard to believe you aren't making gains on basic test. but anything is possible I guess.

 

[gurma]

Thanks everybody:
I seem to have gained a bit more strength, and a further pound, so maybe I am responding a bit after all, although VERY far from gains I have seen here. For example, I used 13 pounds more on my bench press to what i was using before.
Do you think it would be a good idea to end the cycle with dianabol, just to test the waters and see how it works for me?
I cannot use deca because I am taking Dutasteride, and with it deca is a no go (hair falls out like crazy!!!)
I think my diet is correct, as I am taking almost 300 grams protein, and enough carbs (I am gaining some fat too)
I am shooting 150mg EOD.