NOOB: First cycle during cut for a compete beginner

[Trinibad]

I've been bulking for about 4 months, when I get to 6 I am planning to cut. I have already gained a fair bit of fat and I want to lose this 3without getting much smaller when cutting around Easter, and I understand the best way to do this is getting on dat dere steronz.

I am a complete noob but I am a medical professional, I will be able to thoroughly research anything that is suggested to me before trying it.

As far as I understand, the most basic regimen is some kind of synthetic test and an aromatase inhibitor. I'm happy to keep it as simple as that. I don't want to take any risk with methylated oral drugs, but I was wondering if there are any modern test patches that you guys can recommend? I know you all thought the first generation were basically shit.

Failing that I guess it's injectable Tren plus Aromasin, for 6 weeks. Sound right?

 

[Sick_Beard]

Failing that I guess it's injectable Tren plus Aromasin, for 6 weeks. Sound right?

Everything you said up to here was good. Tren on a 1st cycle is not a good idea. Tren on a 1st cycle without test is suicide.

Here's what I'd recommend: Don't use test for a cutting cycle. If you know how to diet, you can lose fat and you won't lose your gains. You may look flat/ depleted because of muscle glycogen depletion, but once you come off the diet and carb up, you will look bigger than when you started cutting.

Now after you come off the diet, slowly bring your calories back to maintenance, hover there for a few weeks and from there start a lean bulk. A few more week in, you can introduce your test e @ 500mg/ week and you will see amazing results.

 

[Trinibad]

Everything you said up to here was good. Tren on a 1st cycle is not a good idea. Tren on a 1st cycle without test is suicide.

Here's what I'd recommend: Don't use test for a cutting cycle. If you know how to diet, you can lose fat and you won't lose your gains. You may look flat/ depleted because of muscle glycogen depletion, but once you come off the diet and carb up, you will look bigger than when you started cutting.

Now after you come off the diet, slowly bring your calories back to maintenance, hover there for a few weeks and from there start a lean bulk. A few more week in, you can introduce your test e @ 500mg/ week and you will see amazing results.

Oops, my bad, thanks for the heads up. Your suggestion sounds fine, would it be worth squeezing in a cycle in the last couple months of my bulk though?


And just wondering if it's still all about injectable test or if there are patches/gels out there worth a damn by now?

And is it possible to take aromatase inhibitors on their own to increase your test via. reducing it's conversion?

 

[Mr P]

You can cut with test I've done it many times, keep an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) handy drink a gallon of water everyday keep a good cardio plan keep your diet incheck

 

[Sick_Beard]

Injectable is the way to go along with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Run both for 12 weeks and you'll be fine.

I wouldn't recommend you start the test now, as having a higher BF% will increase the likelihood of estrogen-related sides. Plus you will have to wait at least 2 months after you're done your cycle before you can start a cut. So it's better to start the cycle as lean as possible imo

 

[Trinibad]

Injectable is the way to go along with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Run both for 12 weeks and you'll be fine.

I wouldn't recommend you start the test now, as having a higher BF% will increase the likelihood of estrogen-related sides. Plus you will have to wait at least 2 months after you're done your cycle before you can start a cut. So it's better to start the cycle as lean as possible imo

Ok makes sense.

Out of interest what's the problem with the patches and gels? Is the the % test actually absorbed or is it the type of molecule or?

 

[Sick_Beard]

Ok makes sense.

Out of interest what's the problem with the patches and gels? Is the the % test actually absorbed or is it the type of molecule or?

No underground lab is gonna sell you test patches lol they all brew injectables. It's more effective, efficient, insures accurate dosage and stable blood levels.

 

[Trinibad]

No underground lab is gonna sell you test patches lol they all brew injectables. It's more effective, efficient, insures accurate dosage and stable blood levels.

The reason I ask is because I can get hold of pharma grade test patches for very cheap, but if they are no good I won't bother with them.

 

[Trinibad]

^ final bump

 

[Nightmare007]

Diet training and clenbuterol

 

[dj2dirk41]

i never needed aas to cut really before but when i was on test i did get leaner but if i were you the two things i would look into is carb cycling worked awesome for me and my girl and clen. people say its dangerous i never had any issues with it i took it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off went from 40mcg up to 120mcg. yeah you get a little shaky but nothing uncomfortable good luck man

 

[Scott_skydive]

I've used a test only cycle and cut BODYFAT, work hard, eat right, utilize appropriate cardio

 

[Trinibad]

How about depot injections? They are SC or IM right? I would really rather not inject IV....

 

[OoberNoob]

I would personally think that if you have been bulking that long and have been working out for years then you should already know what it takes to cut/lose your gained fat. I honestly think you should try getting your nutrition right, continue to work out but change your routine to cut and do it naturally. No point in all of a sudden pinning just to cut excess fat IMO.