NPP usage while on Low-T therapy

[lillywhites]

Currently:
250mg Test-E E3/4D, Anastrozole 0.25mg EOD, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 300iu E3/4D.....

Question....lots of niggling tendonitis in elbows, forearms, shoulders. Lots of therapy past and present, including ulnar tunnel surgery 6 years ago. I've been reading on the use of NPP for rebuilding ligaments/muslces through injury and need some help on how to incorporate this into my cycle. As NPP will shut down my T production (as little as it is), it is usually supplemented with Test, which I already have at 500mg per week.

Questions:
1. Will 200mg of NPP weekly suffice to aid in tendonitis
2. Will my current dosage of Test and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) be sufficient during the use of NPP
3. As NPP has low liver toxicity, is there any liver support needed, other than say basic Milk Thistle?

thanks...

 

[MickeyKnox]

If you're going to choose NPP for joint maintenance, i would use the longer ester and pick up some Deca to match up with your long ester Enth. It works for some, but not for others. You'll just have to try it and see for yourself.

Also, your title to this thread is a little misleading (to me anyway). The values you've listed for your current protocol suggests a cycle, not "low T therapy". However, 200mg of NPP wkly may or may not help you. Again, its trial and error for each individual. Im currently running 300mg/wk Deca for joint issues and have not noticed a difference.

It's always a good idea to include a solid proven liver support on cycle. UDAC (Ursodeoxycholic Acid) or NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) are both solid choices.

 

[lillywhites]

Thanks for the info...I've been off T therapy for a while, was going through bloodwork while my Dr was watching my levels to see how low they would drop....Total T dropped as expected back down 227. His option of 1-shot every two weeks was a non-starter, we also disagreed on the need for any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), or Anastrozole, even though when on pellets, there was a noticeable reduction in size of testis, and E2 levels were really high....so, I chose to go my own route.

The 500mg per week is a booster, which I plan to run for 12 weeks, which will drop back down to 200mg per week long term. In the past i've responded well to pellets and gels...the only problem is that as soon as I stop, the drop-off in Total T is 250pts per month avg..(don't have any free T numbers unfortunately). I do have a blood test kit ready to send off in a month to check on progress and to use as a gauge.

 

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks for the info...I've been off T therapy for a while, was going through bloodwork while my Dr was watching my levels to see how low they would drop....Total T dropped as expected back down 227. His option of 1-shot every two weeks was a non-starter, we also disagreed on the need for any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), or Anastrozole, even though when on pellets, there was a noticeable reduction in size of testis, and E2 levels were really high....so, I chose to go my own route.

The 500mg per week is a booster, which I plan to run for 12 weeks, which will drop back down to 200mg per week long term. In the past i've responded well to pellets and gels...the only problem is that as soon as I stop, the drop-off in Total T is 250pts per month avg..(don't have any free T numbers unfortunately). I do have a blood test kit ready to send off in a month to check on progress and to use as a gauge.

I would try to find a Dr thats knowledgeable in TRT. IMHO, your current Dr does not appear to have the education or experience to properly diagnose and prescribe TRT. One shot every two wks is ridiculous.

Going on your own is not a good idea either as you dont appear to have a solid knowledge base to perform self administered TRT. 500mg/wk for 12 wks is NOT a "booster", its a cycle. An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and hCG is a wise inclusion for any cycle, like the one you have suggested.

I hope you eventually get this straightened out.

 

[MickeyKnox]

Double post.

 

[Megatron28]

You may have to manage prolactin to if you go on deca. If you are self medicating I hope you are getting frequent blood work done.

Regardless of what form you get your exogenous test from, your levels will return to your starting point of 227 or lower if you stop. You have to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life.

 

[bigben34]

As others said, 500mg of test and 200mg of npp may or may not help your tendons feel better but I can say that you won't be building your tendons up during that cycle. Supraphysiological levels of T will stop collagen production and your tendons will most likely weaken (trust me, I know the feeling). The NPP can help minimize this but it is certainly not a given. IMO, the thing to do is to run your normal testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (200mg EW) and add in 100-150mg of deca or npp EW. Your natural collagen production will get a good boost by doing this. Obviously you won't get the size and strength benefits of a full cycle but you can focus on building tendon and ligament strength this way. Lots of slow negative reps really help load the tendons.

 

[Megatron28]

TB-500 is supposed to help too.