on sust 250 and thinkin about adding tren a
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Teutonic
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It will crush it.
You read enough yet to ask an intelligent question or you just gonna blast cruise yourself into trt for life ?
Again , what is your---
Age
height
weight
years training
How about a picture ? My 50 year old backside is displayed ? I am not fucking with YOU; rather your entire generations needs for instant gratification and the me me me mindset. Arnold in 4 years is a BOLD statement unless your way bigger than I. (quite possible and probable). So I ask you again...post up a piccie mate. Or go do your homework like the Headmaster asked. Then ask an intelligent question. At least write a proper paragraph mate. It's really for your own good champ. You cannot just go about sticking things in your arse without expecting some bloody ramifications, now can we ?
You read enough yet to ask an intelligent question or you just gonna blast cruise yourself into trt for life ?
Again , what is your---
Age
height
weight
years training
How about a picture ? My 50 year old backside is displayed ? I am not fucking with YOU; rather your entire generations needs for instant gratification and the me me me mindset. Arnold in 4 years is a BOLD statement unless your way bigger than I. (quite possible and probable). So I ask you again...post up a piccie mate. Or go do your homework like the Headmaster asked. Then ask an intelligent question. At least write a proper paragraph mate. It's really for your own good champ. You cannot just go about sticking things in your arse without expecting some bloody ramifications, now can we ?
Teutonic
New member
It will crush it.
You read enough yet to ask an intelligent question or you just gonna blast cruise yourself into trt for life ?
Again , what is your---
Age
height
weight
years training
How about a picture ? My 50 year old backside is displayed ? I am not fucking with YOU; rather your entire generations needs for instant gratification and the me me me mindset. Arnold in 4 years is a BOLD statement unless your way bigger than I. (quite possible and probable). So I ask you again...post up a piccie mate. Or go do your homework like the Headmaster asked. Then ask an intelligent question. At least write a proper paragraph mate. It's really for your own good champ. You cannot just go about sticking things in your arse without expecting some bloody ramifications, now can we ?
You read enough yet to ask an intelligent question or you just gonna blast cruise yourself into trt for life ?
Again , what is your---
Age
height
weight
years training
How about a picture ? My 50 year old backside is displayed ? I am not fucking with YOU; rather your entire generations needs for instant gratification and the me me me mindset. Arnold in 4 years is a BOLD statement unless your way bigger than I. (quite possible and probable). So I ask you again...post up a piccie mate. Or go do your homework like the Headmaster asked. Then ask an intelligent question. At least write a proper paragraph mate. It's really for your own good champ. You cannot just go about sticking things in your arse without expecting some bloody ramifications, now can we ?
Teutonic
New member
It will crush it.
You read enough yet to ask an intelligent question or you just gonna blast cruise yourself into trt for life ?
Again , what is your---
Age
height
weight
years training
How about a picture ? My 50 year old backside is displayed ? I am not fucking with YOU; rather your entire generations needs for instant gratification and the me me me mindset. Arnold in 4 years is a BOLD statement unless your way bigger than I. (quite possible and probable). So I ask you again...post up a piccie mate. Or go do your homework like the Headmaster asked. Then ask an intelligent question. At least write a proper paragraph mate. It's really for your own good champ. You cannot just go about sticking things in your arse without expecting some bloody ramifications, now can we ?
You read enough yet to ask an intelligent question or you just gonna blast cruise yourself into trt for life ?
Again , what is your---
Age
height
weight
years training
How about a picture ? My 50 year old backside is displayed ? I am not fucking with YOU; rather your entire generations needs for instant gratification and the me me me mindset. Arnold in 4 years is a BOLD statement unless your way bigger than I. (quite possible and probable). So I ask you again...post up a piccie mate. Or go do your homework like the Headmaster asked. Then ask an intelligent question. At least write a proper paragraph mate. It's really for your own good champ. You cannot just go about sticking things in your arse without expecting some bloody ramifications, now can we ?
Im 24, 1 meter 80, I weigh 83 kilos and at 7 percent bodyfat
been training for 3 yrs, wat else do u wanna know princess?
I do not have a pic that justifys the size I am
I was born with wide shoulders and a small waist so u can say ive had a headstart
they r my goals that keep me on track and as far as im considered im kaing good progress,
I also want to compete do u have a problem with that aswell?
been training for 3 yrs, wat else do u wanna know princess?
I do not have a pic that justifys the size I am
I was born with wide shoulders and a small waist so u can say ive had a headstart
they r my goals that keep me on track and as far as im considered im kaing good progress,
I also want to compete do u have a problem with that aswell?
Teutonic
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Non at all. I did. Won a couple regionals, placed in a few others. I too have wide shoulders, small joints etc.
And I wish you all the best.
2 nd sticky from the top.
Australia s customs is some of the toughest around. Chlomid and Nolva used in conjunction will provide highest chance of full recovery...dosing is in that sticky I m sure. I think u should stop the tren first and then the test. 2 weeks after last pin start pct
What do you available ?
HCG during cycle..125-250 e 3 or 4 day i m o. From the first week or when you know your testicles are shrinking and if you want to reverse that..
I m on trt for life for rushing in and not knowing whats up except what someone told me...they told me wrong. knowledge is best retained when sought out personally with any discrepencies DISCUSSED and explained.
I am sure others who do tren and pct will lock you into a schedule when you tell us what you can get. Cheers. Trying to actually help you and not throw you free fish.You got teach a man to fish if you really want to help.
( Your camera fucked up or ?)
And I wish you all the best.
2 nd sticky from the top.
Australia s customs is some of the toughest around. Chlomid and Nolva used in conjunction will provide highest chance of full recovery...dosing is in that sticky I m sure. I think u should stop the tren first and then the test. 2 weeks after last pin start pct
What do you available ?
HCG during cycle..125-250 e 3 or 4 day i m o. From the first week or when you know your testicles are shrinking and if you want to reverse that..
I m on trt for life for rushing in and not knowing whats up except what someone told me...they told me wrong. knowledge is best retained when sought out personally with any discrepencies DISCUSSED and explained.
I am sure others who do tren and pct will lock you into a schedule when you tell us what you can get. Cheers. Trying to actually help you and not throw you free fish.You got teach a man to fish if you really want to help.
( Your camera fucked up or ?)
Thank u
im not on tren altho if I want it tomorrow I could go and get it if u know wat I mean
I can get anythin bar hcg coz its impossible to get in,
Im only on 750 mgs a week of sust and its been goin fine, (I think im not growin others beg to differ, maybe coz my bars to high)
Ive done a pct off my first cycle I just didnt know if the time varied on sust
and the photo thing is more personal issues like insecurity and shit
im not on tren altho if I want it tomorrow I could go and get it if u know wat I mean
I can get anythin bar hcg coz its impossible to get in,
Im only on 750 mgs a week of sust and its been goin fine, (I think im not growin others beg to differ, maybe coz my bars to high)
Ive done a pct off my first cycle I just didnt know if the time varied on sust
and the photo thing is more personal issues like insecurity and shit
carverelli
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snowpatrol123
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Decision for you is going to have to be something along the lines of
"look like Arnold in a few years (who competed around 100kg iirc), decent chance of natural hormone production damaged in the long term and possible other side effects from the 19nor's, orals & diuretics"
OR
"look increasingly badass for the next 5 - 10 years while playing it safe & taking decent precautions to safeguard physical well-being"
"look like Arnold in a few years (who competed around 100kg iirc), decent chance of natural hormone production damaged in the long term and possible other side effects from the 19nor's, orals & diuretics"
OR
"look increasingly badass for the next 5 - 10 years while playing it safe & taking decent precautions to safeguard physical well-being"
Mad- scientist
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Skrollax you need to show a moderator some respect when you talk to him. The truth is the things you have said show that you have not studied enough or did not understand the things you have studied about steroids. Teutonic might be fucking with you a little bit but he has good intentions. In all honesty he has given you some of the best advice you could ask for. Blasting and cruising will put you on TRT for life their is a 90 percent chance of that.
Also Tren for a second cycle is a horrible idea. I don't care what anyone says it is a bad idea. If some one has studied for a really long time and is extremely knowledgeable I still would not recommend it. Because you can have all the knowledge in the world but without personal experience with progesterone related steroids like deca and NPP you should wait on running tren. You need to know how to control progesterone with prami or caber before you venture into tren. Because prami and caber have side effects of their own.
For pct on a tren cycle I would advise nolvidex and clomid. Also with hcg ran at 500 iu's every week 250 ius on Monday and 250 on Thursday. Also my friend I admire your want to look like Arnold. We all want to look that good. I would take it one step at a time and realize that negative health effects will happen trying to get a physique like Arnold. You have only done testosterone the base steroid of every cycle. That is a mandatory steroid. To look like Arnold you are going to have to use damn near every steroid under the sun. He did not have access to all of them back then but he is a genetic master piece. I advise you to try weaker to moderately strong steroids before making a life long decision and jumping into full blown body builder mode trying to look like Arnold. Stay away from tren tell you are 3 to 4 cycles deep and have more knowledge.
Also Tren for a second cycle is a horrible idea. I don't care what anyone says it is a bad idea. If some one has studied for a really long time and is extremely knowledgeable I still would not recommend it. Because you can have all the knowledge in the world but without personal experience with progesterone related steroids like deca and NPP you should wait on running tren. You need to know how to control progesterone with prami or caber before you venture into tren. Because prami and caber have side effects of their own.
For pct on a tren cycle I would advise nolvidex and clomid. Also with hcg ran at 500 iu's every week 250 ius on Monday and 250 on Thursday. Also my friend I admire your want to look like Arnold. We all want to look that good. I would take it one step at a time and realize that negative health effects will happen trying to get a physique like Arnold. You have only done testosterone the base steroid of every cycle. That is a mandatory steroid. To look like Arnold you are going to have to use damn near every steroid under the sun. He did not have access to all of them back then but he is a genetic master piece. I advise you to try weaker to moderately strong steroids before making a life long decision and jumping into full blown body builder mode trying to look like Arnold. Stay away from tren tell you are 3 to 4 cycles deep and have more knowledge.
gram of tren
so vain
to be fair mad scientist, teutonic was busting his balls pretty bad so he came back in the same type of tone. moderator or not, doesn't give you the right to talk down to someone. and im not bashing teutonic cuz hes one of the few moderators that doesn't mind a little ball busting, im just stating a point.
and to the OP, how tall are you in feet and inches? 83 kilo is like 180lbs right? if you get wanna BIG and LEAN you need to look into blasting and cruising. I know a lot of guys here don't agree with it, but that's life. you need to make sacrifices if you want to achieve an Arnold like physique, and your natty test production is one of those sacrifices. but like teutonic said, its hard to give you advice without evaluating your physique visually. feel free to post a few pictures, don't be insecure. everyone starts somewhere.
and to the OP, how tall are you in feet and inches? 83 kilo is like 180lbs right? if you get wanna BIG and LEAN you need to look into blasting and cruising. I know a lot of guys here don't agree with it, but that's life. you need to make sacrifices if you want to achieve an Arnold like physique, and your natty test production is one of those sacrifices. but like teutonic said, its hard to give you advice without evaluating your physique visually. feel free to post a few pictures, don't be insecure. everyone starts somewhere.
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