One month on HCG

[bodyofageekgod]

So I've been on HCG 400 IUs 3 times a week for 4 weeks. I had a follow-up with my Endo (who is a complete fraud and doesn't know what he is doing).

The Good
My T went from 206 to 280, so some improvement.

I didn't notice much of anything for the first 2 weeks but starting on the 3rd week. I started having more energy, not needing a nap in the evening, and feel like going to the gym again. My workouts are going much better. I noticed that I'm thinking clearer and some of my anxiety issues have gotten better. Also I started getting morning wood again but the libido hasn't increased much.

The Bad
My retarded Endo kept asking me what side effects I was having. I told him that my fingers felt a little swollen first thing in the morning but went away immediately after getting up. I also told him my wife said I'm a little moodier than I was before HCG. He said he was "shocked" that I wasn't have serious edema or other more serious side effects.

I asked him again if I could take the HCG SubQ and he told me it could only be taken IM. He said "the thick gel wouldn't get through a smaller needle". I was like "what? it's not a gel, it's like water." The Endo didn't even know what type of bottles the HCG comes in or that it needed to be reconstituted!

The Future
I swore when I left the Endo office, that I wouldn't go back to him ever again. He want's me to increase my HCG to 750 IUs 3 times a week and see him in 3 months.

I got all my labs and getting my physical to Chip for a consult.

Questions
Do you guys think increasing to 750 IUs 3 times a week is too much?
My wife and I want to have another kid, can you combine Test and HCG and still stay fertile? (The endo says no but I don't believe anything he says).

 

[j2048b]

from what i have read and the little bit i do know, there have been guys to super compensate with hcg upwards of 5000 iu's a week for a bit then pyramid down to a normal 250 iu's there are a lot of docs who specialize in trt/hrt who say not to go over 500 a week.

but thats great your leves have come up with just Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? and no test, but i wonder where your e2 levels currently sit?

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

At 750iu's 3x's a week you run the risk of desensitizing your leydig cells and shutting your nuts down for good. 2,250iu's a week for an extended period of time is fucking ludicrous. Thats why you came to me "bodyofageekgod". I'll get you set up right.

 

[TR2838]

That's alot of HCG!

 

[cjw2021]

lol 206 to 280. That is nowhere near enough testosterone production.

 

[j2048b]

well honestly a guy i just talked too here on this site was pushing 5000 iu's of hcg, so it is actually not that much as long as it is not for ever, there have been guys who push 5000, and pyrimid down to about 250 a week, or so,

 

[Tide14]

You're hunting an elephant with a BB gun

 

[bodyofageekgod]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I too think that much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is too high. I'm doing it right now but as soon as I get hooked up with Chip I'll probably go on his conservative protocol.

Chip, still waiting to get my medical records from the pcp (seems to be taking them forever).