Only 18 with lowT.To JUICE OR NOT TO JUICE?

[beast3146]

Hey Guys,
Kind of new here..I been doing extensive research on steroids and Trt lately and also lurked on the forums and decided to finally make an account.

I'm 18 years old and just about a month ago I went to the doctor because I was ill. While I was there I asked for a testosterone blood test. It later came out as 267 for my total. This kind of freaked me out but I let it ago and continued living my life.

Fastforward to a couple days ago I'm having weird anxiety attacks, feeling shitty, no libido,etc. It's also safe to assume it cud be porn withdrawal symptoms because I gave up porn and masturbating cold turkey about three weeks ago. I got back to extensively researching testosterone again and I had a doctor's appointment today, so I decided to get a hormone panel today. The doctor looked at me like I was bat shit crazy and refused to give me the hormone panel. After a while of trying to convince him, he said he'll only test the testosterone levels again but "I have nothing to worry about because 267 is normal ranges". I gave Away blood today and I am waiting a second blood test result

Desperate as hell I called an anti aging clinic and now have an appointment with them tomorrow.

The questions is, should I hop on TRT? Im 18 so pretty young, so are there any downsides to getting on TRT. I'm not going to be blasting and will stay within normal ranges atleast until I'm way older. Or should I leave trt alone?
I dont want to have kids and I enjoy having sex with multiple different women, but I dont know how long I could keep that up so you never know, I might want kids maybe 10 years,20 years later from now.

This is one of the hardest decision I ever made and need help. This is a life long commitment and that scares me a bit. What if I lose my insurance temporarily or get stuck somewhere in an island without my trt injection? I know they sound silly but I'm just looking for some guidance.

 

[drewdunkin1992]

Hey Guys,
Kind of new here..I been doing extensive research on steroids and Trt lately and also lurked on the forums and decided to finally make an account.

I'm 18 years old and just about a month ago I went to the doctor because I was ill. While I was there I asked for a testosterone blood test. It later came out as 267 for my total. This kind of freaked me out but I let it ago and continued living my life.

Fastforward to a couple days ago I'm having weird anxiety attacks, feeling shitty, no libido,etc. It's also safe to assume it cud be porn withdrawal symptoms because I gave up porn and masturbating cold turkey about three weeks ago. I got back to extensively researching testosterone again and I had a doctor's appointment today, so I decided to get a hormone panel today. The doctor looked at me like I was bat shit crazy and refused to give me the hormone panel. After a while of trying to convince him, he said he'll only test the testosterone levels again but "I have nothing to worry about because 267 is normal ranges". I gave Away blood today and I am waiting a second blood test result

Desperate as hell I called an anti aging clinic and now have an appointment with them tomorrow.

The questions is, should I hop on TRT? Im 18 so pretty young, so are there any downsides to getting on TRT. I'm not going to be blasting and will stay within normal ranges atleast until I'm way older. Or should I leave trt alone?
I dont want to have kids and I enjoy having sex with multiple different women, but I dont know how long I could keep that up so you never know, I might want kids maybe 10 years,20 years later from now.

This is one of the hardest decision I ever made and need help. This is a life long commitment and that scares me a bit. What if I lose my insurance temporarily or get stuck somewhere in an island without my trt injection? I know they sound silly but I'm just looking for some guidance.

Morning beast, Andrew here.
im in a similar situation as you heavy low t symptoms since around 17/18 currently 22 with free T of 20.5 ref 44/260

check out all the stickies in the clinic and anabolic forum before doing anything rash, and try to remember that even though its crazy dealing with this sort of thing at such a young age and we want instant gratification; we really need to learn to and embrace the desire to achieve long term health and well being not just short term relief.
as im sure others will agree (once they chime in) dont just jump into exogenous hormone use simply because you can, try to find out what is causing your levels in the first place.
just because its a good thing (short term relief/peace of mind) doesnt mean that its the right thing( long term health)


feel free to psot any questions as the moderators on this board are very respectful and helpful.
ill be lurking around if you simply need someone to talk with.

God bless -Andrew
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[drewdunkin1992]

Hey Guys,
The doctor looked at me like I was bat shit crazy and refused to give me the hormone panel. After a while of trying to convince him, he said he'll only test the testosterone levels again but "I have nothing to worry about because 267 is normal ranges"

if you check out one of my threads or search the forum you will find a moderator by the name of Megatron28 in his signature he has a link to a relatively cheap blood hormonal panel. including sgbh and estrogen/e2 levels

 

[hiram1st]

Welcome to ology.
Start here:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
Read this thread and all its links paying special attention to the TRT overview link

You need to find out if you are hypogonadyl and what type this takes time.

Read the thread above

 

[johnfromeurope]

Well...267 is low...but hormone levels can fluctate a bit...and as long as you enjoy having sex with many different women, it doesn't concern me..

 

[halfwit]

Before you panic, there are a few steps involved before you're doomed to the needle forever.

1. What time were the blood draws done at?

2. Have you had your LH and FSH checked? These are the pituitary hormones that tell your testes to produce sperm and testosterone.

3. What is your body fat percentage approximately at?

4. Do you snore?

5. Are you currently dieting, or have any unique dietary needs?

6. Do you get 7+ hours of sleep and feel well rested upon waking?

7. Have you ever suffered any trauma to the head or testes?

8. Are you under an extreme amount of stress lately?

These are questions that a GOOD doctor should be asking as they help to rule out possible causes. Of course your doctor is an educated idiot that can't see past your age, which means it's time to find a new one. Be careful with wellness/vitality clinics as they don't always have the patients' best interests in mind.

I look forward to your reply.

 

[Westshore]

Hi, Also get checked for varicocele. Does your left nut feel like it has a bag of worms in it?
Can you see a lump in either of the twins? If so, the varicocele could be disrupting your test production. Surgery is outpatient and your back to normal in a few days.

 

[Westshore]

Also, I wouldn't freak out too much about cost.
If you were low T and put on TRT for life you can stock up on the gear while your insured and then save some for between jobs. Many doctors will refill prescriptions over the phone (actually the pharmacy calls it in to a receptionist) and I've had doctors refill asthma meds for years. One doctor was on my old insurance from 5 or 6 years ago. Gear supplies are not even 10 cents a piece.

But I'm jumping the gun... you need to find out why you are at 2XX when you should be much higher. Get a new doctor if yours is lame. Use Yelp or some other rating source to find a good endocrinologist or Male systems/urologist.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey Guys,
Kind of new here..I been doing extensive research on steroids and Trt lately and also lurked on the forums and decided to finally make an account.

I'm 18 years old and just about a month ago I went to the doctor because I was ill. While I was there I asked for a testosterone blood test. It later came out as 267 for my total. This kind of freaked me out but I let it ago and continued living my life.

development is finished for most males around age 25. at THAT time you shoud consider HRT. at this point you have production and it may be developing.
and why did you stop cold turkey?... dont give it up thinking it will do much for test levels ( if thats why you did) go for blood work couple times a year though and watch it, and live healthy of course

 

[JimiThing]

Id be trying to find out WHY your T levels are so low and see if that can be fixed before Id skip right to TRT. As was mentioned thats what a good Dr would be doing in the first place. There is usually a reason for low T levels, if it can be found it may be able to be fixed and TRT might prove unnecessary.

 

[beast3146]

Before you panic, there are a few steps involved before you're doomed to the needle forever.

1. What time were the blood draws done at?

2. Have you had your LH and FSH checked? These are the pituitary hormones that tell your testes to produce sperm and testosterone.

3. What is your body fat percentage approximately at?

4. Do you snore?

5. Are you currently dieting, or have any unique dietary needs?

6. Do you get 7+ hours of sleep and feel well rested upon waking?

7. Have you ever suffered any trauma to the head or testes?

8. Are you under an extreme amount of stress lately?

These are questions that a GOOD doctor should be asking as they help to rule out possible causes. Of course your doctor is an educated idiot that can't see past your age, which means it's time to find a new one. Be careful with wellness/vitality clinics as they don't always have the patients' best interests in mind.

I look forward to your reply.

At the time I got the blood test, I was sick,deprived of sleep, stressed, and it was later in the afternoon. So I had reason to believe the test results weren't accurate. That's why I went to the doctor again yesterday to get another blood test. I also wanted to get a full hormone panel done to see what might be causing me low T. He refused but did give me another test just for testosterone. Also my body fat is 17% I'm 5'11 190lbs...and I workout regularly. Mom says I snore sometimes and nope I have never really had head or testes trauma.

A lot of u guys r saying I should find the cause so I'll just go somewhere else to get a full blood hormone panel done. But let's say I have tried everything and need to get on TRT. A lot of these doctors seem to not know anything about this subject. Do you guys recommend I go to an anti aging doctor/clinic, my regular physician(Keep switching doctors until I find the one), or an Endo or what. It really seems hard to even get your doctor to listen to you about this matter.

 

[Mr.Port]

At the time I got the blood test, I was sick,deprived of sleep, stressed, and it was later in the afternoon. So I had reason to believe the test results weren't accurate. That's why I went to the doctor again yesterday to get another blood test. I also wanted to get a full hormone panel done to see what might be causing me low T. He refused but did give me another test just for testosterone. Also my body fat is 17% I'm 5'11 190lbs...and I workout regularly. Mom says I snore sometimes and nope I have never really had head or testes trauma.

A lot of u guys r saying I should find the cause so I'll just go somewhere else to get a full blood hormone panel done. But let's say I have tried everything and need to get on TRT. A lot of these doctors seem to not know anything about this subject. Do you guys recommend I go to an anti aging doctor/clinic, my regular physician(Keep switching doctors until I find the one), or an Endo or what. It really seems hard to even get your doctor to listen to you about this matter.

try going to an endo. its doc that deals with that stuffs

 

[PrinceDianabol]

At the time I got the blood test, I was sick,deprived of sleep, stressed, and it was later in the afternoon. So I had reason to believe the test results weren't accurate. That's why I went to the doctor again yesterday to get another blood test. I also wanted to get a full hormone panel done to see what might be causing me low T. He refused but did give me another test just for testosterone. Also my body fat is 17% I'm 5'11 190lbs...and I workout regularly. Mom says I snore sometimes and nope I have never really had head or testes trauma.

A lot of u guys r saying I should find the cause so I'll just go somewhere else to get a full blood hormone panel done. But let's say I have tried everything and need to get on TRT. A lot of these doctors seem to not know anything about this subject. Do you guys recommend I go to an anti aging doctor/clinic, my regular physician(Keep switching doctors until I find the one), or an Endo or what. It really seems hard to even get your doctor to listen to you about this matter.

All the above bolded can have huge impacts on your TT. You may very well actually be in the 500-600s or above. Don't be so quick to assume you have low T. Let's see what value you get back when you've had decent nights sleep for a week or two, not sick or stressed and get it drawn first thing in the morning. Somene with a TT of 600 could easily draw a value of 300-400 just by drawing the blood too late in the day. Not to mention you were sick & stressed as well...

In the event that you do need to discuss TRT, this is the place to learn. I firmly believe you should be the most educated when it comes to your healthcare. Just need to find a doctor who knows what he's doing - doesn't matter if he's an Endo, GP or Urologist. Titles mean very little unless you can back it up...

 

[Profion9k]

you should try to give it time, get sleep, workouts, food, and a proper happy life without stress... Trust me you do not want to live off of oil. Give it a go and after 2-5months redo bloods....

 

[halfwit]

At the time I got the blood test, I was sick,deprived of sleep, stressed, and it was later in the afternoon. So I had reason to believe the test results weren't accurate. That's why I went to the doctor again yesterday to get another blood test. I also wanted to get a full hormone panel done to see what might be causing me low T. He refused but did give me another test just for testosterone. Also my body fat is 17% I'm 5'11 190lbs...and I workout regularly. Mom says I snore sometimes and nope I have never really had head or testes trauma.

A lot of u guys r saying I should find the cause so I'll just go somewhere else to get a full blood hormone panel done. But let's say I have tried everything and need to get on TRT. A lot of these doctors seem to not know anything about this subject. Do you guys recommend I go to an anti aging doctor/clinic, my regular physician(Keep switching doctors until I find the one), or an Endo or what. It really seems hard to even get your doctor to listen to you about this matter.

Agree with the others. There are websites dedicated to weeding out shit doctors now (healthgrades is one), I suggest cozying up with the computer and then making some calls. I personally interview doctors before I let them even take a vital sign now; if they don't pass the interview, they don't get hired by me. Trust me too, there are far more doctors out there than you realize, and there will be a precious few that DO get it.

I also strongly recommend you read Megatron28's sticky at the top of the TRT forums. There is invaluable information in there that even well-versed doctors are unaware of. Hopefully this is temporary, and you'll be able to move on, if not - at least there is a treatment.

 

[beast3146]

I already read the stickies. I have decided for the next thirty days I'll eat healthy, sleep right, workout as usual, add supplements, and try to avoid estrogen mimicking products and items and by the end of the thirty days...I'll take another blood test. If my testosterone results don't come back higher then I'll start TRT. Quick question. If I do start TRT will it stunt growth? I'm only 18, so its possible I may grow a couple more inches till I'm 21...and my endocrine system is NOT fully developed. So any side effects? I dont get why it'd stunt my growth thou because I'll just be taking a dose as a REPLACEMENT and will be within NORMAL ranges of testosterone.

 

[halfwit]

I already read the stickies. I have decided for the next thirty days I'll eat healthy, sleep right, workout as usual, add supplements, and try to avoid estrogen mimicking products and items and by the end of the thirty days...I'll take another blood test. If my testosterone results don't come back higher then I'll start TRT. Quick question. If I do start TRT will it stunt growth? I'm only 18, so its possible I may grow a couple more inches till I'm 21...and my endocrine system is NOT fully developed. So any side effects? I dont get why it'd stunt my growth thou because I'll just be taking a dose as a REPLACEMENT and will be within NORMAL ranges of testosterone.

It's the spike in estradiol that stunts growth by sealing your epiphyseal plates. I do know someone that had to go on TRT at 14 due to testicular trauma, and even though they really tried to prevent this - he is a good 5" shorter than most of his family. This may or may not happen, but it is a potential risk.

I still think you're jumping the gun a little as you still should have a sleep study performed, a look at your pituitary gland, and other potential issues that can decrease testosterone.

I'd definitely spend the time looking for and interviewing endocrinologists in your area. At this point you don't even know if it's primary or secondary hypogonadism at play here, which will greatly impact the potential treatment. Believe me, you will want to exhaust your options before that needle ever touches your skin.

Keep us posted for sure on what happens!

 

[cybrsage]

Yes, keep us posted.

 

[beast3146]

Cool, I'll update you guys on the new testosterone results. then after thirty days if nothing changes or if things get better...I'll update u guys then too.

 

[beast3146]

Hey guys so just an UPADATE. The new blood test I just took this week...came back. Its 382 for total testostrone. Higer than the last one which was 267 or something like that. What do you guys think? I still feel that its pretty low