Painful Test Enanthate injections - How do I warm my vials?

[NativeTX]

I have done several cycles from age 20-27. Fortunately for me, I live in Texas and a trip across the border was only about 5 or 6 hours away. Me and a buddy used to make the trip at least once a year, and we picked up our stuff right from the pharmacy or from a vet. So, it was almost guaranteed to be high quality plus we were buying it at cost. And of course while we were there, we could get a 3 course meal including steak and all the alcohol we could drink for about $30 a piece...good times (and maybe hit "boys town" if we got drunk enough). Now, I would not go anywhere near that border...probably would end up dead.

My most recent cycle I got lucky and ended up with prescribed cyp...was not prescribed for me, but I got it and some Deca from the same source. I had no problem with the injections. As with all of my past cycles, I looked forward to "shot day".

On my current cycle not so much. I wanted to start my cycle with Winnie for 4 weeks which I expected to be painful and IT WAS. It was painful going in and for 3 days following. After about 2 weeks my body has started to build a tolerance and it has become less painful. However, when I went to start my Test E and my EQ in the second week I had equal post injection pain. I am injecting SLOWLY (.2CC every 10-15 sec of the 1cc EQ/1cc Test E). I am taking aspirin, and sitting on a heating pad at night.

I am NO LONGER looking forward to "shot day". Seeing how often I have to inject the Winnie and as soon as my ass gets a break now it's time for the Test E, I am constantly in pain and severe soreness. Sustanon was the easiest thing to grab in Mexico. I had a short term, mild sorenes when taking Sus, but sus is child's play compared to what I feel from the Winnie and Test E.

A couple of questions, will my body start to build a tolerance to the Test E? Also, I have seen several people suggest that heating your oil vials will help, but how do I do that properly. I saw one post where a guy suggested putting it into an oven at 250 for 15 minutes...does not sound like a well thought out plan.

 

[PITBULLLOCK]

Just put it in warm water for a few seconds.

 

[jiggama2797]

I usually heat the syringe with the oil in there already. Prepare the syringe an hour or two ahead of time, and lay it down right in front of the laptops hot air fan, and it's like water when I'm ready to inject.

 

[moeme]

I like to put my gear in microwave till it boils. ha
run very warm water over your filled syringle for like 30 seconds. thats what i do anyways



please dont put gear in stove. think person must have been kidding around.

 

[Phatbastard]

Ha Ha the Whinny fuckin water crystal pain! Another reason not to you the shit unless you have to. My thought is if you inject both in the same areas. The tissue isn't recovered from the last agrivation even thought you may not feel pain, Then it has to turn around and deal with another type of agrivation! Just a though I'm no doctor.
But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night!

 

[lite wt rookie]

Just run warm water over the vial or syringe for a min
Don't put your shit in the oven ....lol
Try pinning other areas besides glutes

 

[China_Wall]

if the gear is hurting u (maybe high BA content) heating it up will do absolutely NOTHING for u... u might just have to deal with it

strange that ur still getting the pain if the test is mixed with eq in same syringe, must be some very bad gear... sorry I can't be of more help bro

 

[crazyfmike]

You're mixing Winnie and Test in same syringe? Water and oil in same load?

Dirty gear also causes PIP, so does no BB and other fuck ups in the brewing process like BA too high.

 

[Bullishness]

Heating it does make for a smoother shot, I hold my loaded syringe under a light bulb for 1 min and rotate it. Shoot it slow and steady. I am stacking 1.5 Tren with 1.5 Prop, Pinning 3cc in one shot. I swear i feel no pain. Not sure what size pin your using, I use a 25 G 1' in Quads

 

[ChrisWho?]

Start using more injection sites, your pinning the same area too often. Winni is worthless and has no spot in anyones cycle unless competing so you should consider dropping it.

 

[ChrisWho?]

You're mixing Winnie and Test in same syringe? Water and oil in same load?

Dirty gear also causes PIP, so does no BB and other fuck ups in the brewing process like BA too high.

I don't think he is, but there's no problem mixing the two. Many pin their Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with test.

 

[gorilla_boy]

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strange that ur still getting the pain if the test is mixed with eq in same syringe, must be some very bad gear... sorry I can't be of more help bro

Yep.

Mixing with EQ makes _everything_ better.

 

[tommygunn76]

I heard a blow dyer works great to heat up your gear

 

[moeme]

You're mixing Winnie and Test in same syringe? Water and oil in same load?

Dirty gear also causes PIP, so does no BB and other fuck ups in the brewing process like BA too high.

What is pip, bb and ba? Just curious because i wasrecently told i had sone bad gear too.

 

[NativeTX]

What is pip, bb and ba? Just curious because i wasrecently told i had sone bad gear too.

PIP = Post Injection Pain, BB = believe is body building agents (in this scenario), ba refers to the alcohol that they put in gear to keep it sterile. From my understanding, many UGLs put in more BA than they need to which keeps the stuff clean but unecessarily painful. Coud be wrong, I am a Rookie, but that's what I know.

 

[NativeTX]

I am not putting oil and water in the same inject. I saw on this forum and others that it was a bad idea. When I asked my buddy locally, he just said "NO. Don't do it!" My howework said that, alltough unlikely, it could cause and abcess.

 

[NativeTX]

I do not think it's bad gear. Like I said, I used to get all my gear first hand. Unfortunately, today everything is UGL. If you do not get it UGL, someone down your line does.

I ventured out becasue my trusted local was not around and it was way past time to start my cylcle, so I went with a UGL that I had heard great things about on many forums. And, I ordered overseas. My strength is through the roof, my appettite is as well, and I am more vascular than I have ever been. Good news is that they sent me my stuff when they could have just taken my $$. So, in my mind, that and the fact that I had good research on them makes them legit. I am in week 2 and seeing very good results already.However, it does not mean that they have clean gear, but I hear a lot of UGls don't. It's all UGL now. You either have a good UGL a bad one or your local source does.

 

[NativeTX]

Start using more injection sites, your pinning the same area too often. Winni is worthless and has no spot in anyones cycle unless competing so you should consider dropping it.

I hear you Chris about the Winnie, but I had already purchased it before I posted my cycle, and a couple of vetreans on this site trashed my idea of Winnie. It's very expensive, so I am not going to waste it. I am going to drink it (which you can do with liquid Winnie), if my ass is too sore.

 

[NativeTX]

Start using more injection sites, your pinning the same area too often. Winni is worthless and has no spot in anyones cycle unless competing so you should consider dropping it.

I know. I have never had to pin more than 2X a week so it has never been an issue....usually never more than once a week. I have been told by friends to start pinning my quads. However, not having seen it done and knowing your legs have major arteries is a bit intimidating to me. I have a friend who is supposedly going to show me how to pin my quads. Sorry, looking at a you tube video, does not make me feel safe enough.

 

[NativeTX]

I am using 23 gauge. Hopefully, I can start pinning my quads to "share the pain". I do tend to feel/agree with Chris's opinion about irritating and irritated area. My biggest pain was when I first injected the Test E. I had injected Winnie in the same area 2 days before. The swelling and irritation had gone down signficantly, but it was not fully recovered. After I injected the Test E, it was worse than waiting for the other "cheek" to inject more Winnie.

I feel like a frigin pin cushion having to inject EOD with Winnie. But, I know several people who have done it with many less sides than me.

Personally, I will never inject Winnie again! If I ever use it, it will be oral. The S* hurts TOO much.

Thanks for all of the feedback!!!!