Patient at "LOW T CENTER" looking for advice on

[zbest4me]

I am a patient at a low t center.
I have been on trt for 8 weeks now and my current dose is 140 of test cyp. every monday. also taking 300mg of Dim every morning. Diet is excellent. I also hit the gym 6 days week.

feeling rather tired during the day, "flabby" and libido is in the toilet! I suggested i needed an AI to reduce e2 and my "doctor" flipped out on me. Telling me that it will hurt me, etc.... actually begged him to write me a script and he flat out said NO!!!

convinced him to run new BW to see if my e2 was high.. my levels came back at.....
estridol = 39
total test 786

when i started trt 8 weeks ago, my total test was 190

Am i nuts for thinking I need an AI? Should I listen to this guy .... or follow my gut and hunt one down?

 

[Roush]

You can get an AI from the red lion at top of page..
Serum level of 39 is in normal range (14-55 nl).. My trt protocol is to take an AI at .5mg day after injection then another .5 two days later.. I don't really follow this dr prescribed protocol though, cause I'm usually blasting 600 mg of test and need to take .5mg eod..

Maybe your overtraining and that's why your tired.. The symptoms you describe sound like low estrodial .. Your doc is right that an AI could hurt you if u take too much and crash your e2

 

[Megatron28]

Estradiol number looks good. Doesn't look like you need an AI. But make sure you keep monitoring it. Things change over time.

 

[zbest4me]

This sure is tricky stuff. I just want to feel "good" again.

 

[grayrh42]

I take 100mg of Test cyp a week, but take it twice a week in 50mg shots, mon night and Frid morn. First time my BW came back I was in the high 60's on E2. I had some of the same feelings you were having. Went to a site sponsor and got some liquidex and have been dosing that at .25mg e3d and feel much better . Went in for new BW today so will see what the E2 comes back at.
I would think you would want to pin twice a week verse the single that you are doing now.

 

[zbest4me]

Problem is I don't do the shots myself. I have to go into the clinic each time. I'm not sure they allow 2x's per week.

I take 100mg of Test cyp a week, but take it twice a week in 50mg shots, mon night and Frid morn. First time my BW came back I was in the high 60's on E2. I had some of the same feelings you were having. Went to a site sponsor and got some liquidex and have been dosing that at .25mg e3d and feel much better . Went in for new BW today so will see what the E2 comes back at.
I would think you would want to pin twice a week verse the single that you are doing now.

 

[Megatron28]

Problem is I don't do the shots myself. I have to go into the clinic each time. I'm not sure they allow 2x's per week.

Demand self injections or look for a new doc. Not being able to self inject is a deal breaker.

 

[zbest4me]

I have blue cross insurance... can anyone recommend a good option in the suburbs of chicago?

Demand self injections or look for a new doc. Not being able to self inject is a deal breaker.

 

[zbest4me]

come to think of it.... these guy whack my ins. every month and still hit me $30.00 every time i walk thru the door (1x per week)
so at $120.00 per month, do I even need to run thru my ins. co? Couldn't I just buy the test cyp online or wherever and be money ahead?

I'm starting to think I should have posted my situation long ago.......

I have blue cross insurance... can anyone recommend a good option in the suburbs of chicago?

 

[Megatron28]

It is better to get your test via a prescription.

You could contact IMT. They will let you self inject and get you on a good TRT protocol. You should see their ad on the right hand side of your screen. Or swing by he TRT forum here.

 

[zbest4me]

although a bit nervous about self injecting... I sent them a request for info just now.

It is better to get your test via a prescription.

You could contact IMT. They will let you self inject and get you on a good TRT protocol. You should see their ad on the right hand side of your screen. Or swing by he TRT forum here.

 

[Megatron28]

We were all nervous at first. It is pretty easy though. There are some good videos on YouTube and lots of great threads here on injections.