PCT- No Libido Help!!!

[LIPS MAHONEY]

Hey Guys, I started post cycle therapy (pct) this past Saturday I am currently running Nolva at 40mg per day and Clomid at 100mg per day. This is the first time I am using Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) and have always had good results with Clomid alone. To make a long story short ever since I started I have zero libido. I've been with my girl for 7 years now so it's not like things are on fire, but I have had not had one thought about sex since Saturday. What are your opinions about dropping the Nolva and going with straight Clomid? It always worked before and I'm starting to think the Nolva is the problem.

 

[snigg]

I'm in PCT too running 50mg clomid and 40mg nolva ED and have pretty much no libido as well.

 

[Cheappinz]

Does anyone know which one knocks out the libido?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

neither should knock out your libido-it could be a combo of things.

did you run test with your cycle?

other than that-its kinda normal for the sex drive to fade on PCT-about 4 weeks after the last pin(with long ester) for me. your test levels are shot-therefore so is your sex drive. since it didnt happen last time-its prolly just a case of a stronger cycle shuttin ya down harder-meaning more time to start pumpin it natty again

 

[3J]

hcg would have prevented this very easily...

 

[Mudge]

I'd lower the doses of both, and honestly clomid for me fucks me up hard (emotionally and strength) - but if it works for you then maybe stick to it. I think you are running both of them too hard.

Lower it, or stick to what works for you historically. As the cycle history continues though, hCG should show up in your routine IMO.

 

[RJ]

Why would you add Nolva if Clomid always worked fine? Doesn't make sense.

And I agree, adding Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout will help with this. Also, try Toremifene Citrate next time. I always used Clomid and it worked fine, but was never raging with libido. Tried TC last year for a gyno issue, and i felt like an 18 year old.

 

[3J]

dude, i gotta try this TC stuff myself.. rj u talk about it like its viagra

 

[RJ]

dude, i gotta try this TC stuff myself.. rj u talk about it like its viagra

what amazes me is that all these guys will try every stupid OTC post cycle therapy (pct) product and wonder why it won't work.

Yet, i think i have mentioned TC about 30 times since i got back on here, and no one pays any attention. I'm no expert, but damn. lol

Oh well, i loved it and I wasn't even taking it for PCT. Sounds like an all around SERM to me.

 

[dialtone]

im also in post cycle therapy (pct) clo/nol and have zero libido. and i did use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout. people react differently to serms, but it does seem to be like clockwork that most of us lose our libido for a few wks after cycle and during pct. it will come back, but i definitely feel your pain man.
rj, i might try TC. i have been interested in it since your first post on it.

 

[RJ]

im also in post cycle therapy (pct) clo/nol and have zero libido. and i did use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout. people react differently to serms, but it does seem to be like clockwork that most of us lose our libido for a few wks after cycle and during pct. it will come back, but i definitely feel your pain man.
rj, i might try TC. i have been interested in it since your first post on it.

i totally agree. Thats why i always give suggestions based on MY experiences alone. What works for others don't do shit for me, and vice versa. Its all a guessing game cause of the variances in our physiological makeup.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Yeah I used Tren E for the first time this cycle and it really slowed the Libido down a ton and I also used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this cycle so yes everything varies from person to person totally. I'm in Pct atm and the libido is still really low so I might try this Toremifene Citrate out for the hell of it myself. thx for the advice guys..

 

[LIPS MAHONEY]

Why would you add Nolva if Clomid always worked fine? Doesn't make sense.

And I agree, adding Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout will help with this. Also, try Toremifene Citrate next time. I always used Clomid and it worked fine, but was never raging with libido. Tried TC last year for a gyno issue, and i felt like an 18 year old.

This was the first cycle I've done in about 4 years. The source I got my gear from had Nolva much cheaper than Clomid and I figured I'd give it a shot. Halfway through my cycle I was reading some post cycle therapy (pct) posts and decided to get the Clomid too and run them both together as suggested by many. But I think I am going to drop the Nolva to 20mg per day.

 

[LIPS MAHONEY]

neither should knock out your libido-it could be a combo of things.

did you run test with your cycle?

Yeah I ran 500mgs of Sustanon (sust) and 250mgs of Test E every week for 12 weeks
40 mgs of Dbol everyday first 4 weeks and 450mgs of EQ every week for weeks 6-12

I am actually still running the EQ at 450mgs a week now until May at that point I am going to start cutting with 400mgs of Prop per week, 450mgs EQ a week and 75mgs of Tren Ace EOD. I will run this for 12weeks then take a break for at least 6-9 months with the gear.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i know EQ is not suppose to shut you down hard-but it will shut you down. since you were shut down on the cycle pretty hard-i bet that your gonna have a hard time producing any test til the eq stops

 

[LIPS MAHONEY]

I hear ya the only reason I'm still running it is because I wanted to use it to bridge an upcoming 12 week cycle starting in May which I will also be using the EQ in. I did not want to start fresh on the EQ considering how long it takes to start working and the fact that I only ran it about 6 weeks the first cycle. I was hoping to bring my natural test up a little during these 2 months off from the external Test. That is why I'm running the PCT. I guess only time will tell.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

let us know how it goes-but IMO if thats what your gonna do i wouldv just tayed on the whole time-and at least ran a maintenance dose of test

 

[LIPS MAHONEY]

let us know how it goes-but IMO if thats what your gonna do i wouldv just tayed on the whole time-and at least ran a maintenance dose of test

I was going to run 250mgs of Test E a week as a matinence dose but a buddy of mine whose a national competitor, and whose opinion I respect highly, told me to just drop it completely so that the Test Prop will be more effect when I start it in May. I also started dieting when I dropped the Test and figured that the EQ alone would help with that. I appreciate all the responses I got this is truly a great board.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i see what your friend is saying-i just disagree-a low dose of like 150mg-200mg a week-wouldnt have inhibited how the test would effect you at all-IMO

and you would still have your johnson-and be feeling better my way

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

bump for other opinions on that^^^