PCT, PCT, post cycle therapy (pct) - It appears Clomid is no longer needed???

[besmart]

PCT, PCT, PCT - It appears Clomid is no longer needed???

Senior Moderators. I've read thru a million posts on here. According to stickies by SWALE (a doctor) and LAWNSAVER, clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) is old school...and nolva is new school. In other words, they say clomid isn't needed for post cycle therapy (pct) as it has too many sides, may cause irreversable eye damage, and doesn't offer any more benefits than what nolva can offer alone. They say nolva only is sufficient for post cycle therapy (pct). For PCT, they suggest taking 40mg nolva ED for 2 weeks then 20mg nolva ED for 2 more weeks, and NO CLOMID. Do you agree?


(I just started the 15th week of my cycle. Did 11 weeks deca, 12 weeks enanthate, 14 weeks Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and now ready to start PCT.)

 

[Vegas]

Only SENIOR Moderators, eh?

Yes, nolvadex is not an sbsolute requirement for post cycle therapy (pct) in my estimation. However I prefer to include it in my to help "cover all the bases" so to speak. Is there any research to say that two SERMs used together serve any purpose? No, but then again there is none that say it doesn't. We are all doing guess work here for the most part. But to answer your question, no clomid is not completely required for post cycle therapy (pct) in most individuals.

 

[Thoms]

most people I know who use clomid as post cycle therapy (pct) instead of nolva, still have better results with it. just my 2 cents.

 

[Popichulo]

I had a few replys for this as far as what I believed..............but then I saw it was Senior Mods only and im not so I guess you dont want my opinion.

 

[dcorti01]

hey i want to hear your opinion, since it looks like you have apretty good idea of what your doing, and since i use clomid for pct, your opinion would be appreciated.

 

[Popichulo]

hey i want to hear your opinion, since it looks like you have apretty good idea of what your doing, and since i use clomid for post cycle therapy (pct), your opinion would be appreciated.

Well since you asked nicely. I have always used Clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) and have never had a problem with recovery after my cycle.........though I dont know if its just me trippin or not but my eye sight does seem to me to get a bit blurry at times. I have thought about switching over to Nolvadex and try it out but I am a firm believer in if it aint broke dont fix it. I dont want to switch to Nolva and then find out my recovery was half ass and it didnt work as well as my Clomid would have.

 

[Button Buck]

Does doubling both nolva and clomid during post cycle therapy (pct) limit the effectiveness of both or do they compliment each other? If not then why not to take both aside from the sides that clomid presents to some?

 

[BigRonWannabee]

Nolva and clomid with a splash of arimidex.

Btw just consider the fact that post cycle therapy (pct) HELPS recovery, just nudges your body in the right direction so to speak. Dont think of post cycle therapy (pct) drugs as cures or differences in opinion as end-all protocals when reading swale's or pheendo's recomendations. I know plenty of guys who dont even bother with post cycle therapy (pct). To each his own.

 

[dcorti01]

Well since you asked nicely. I have always used Clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) and have never had a problem with recovery after my cycle.........though I dont know if its just me trippin or not but my eye sight does seem to me to get a bit blurry at times. I have thought about switching over to Nolvadex and try it out but I am a firm believer in if it aint broke dont fix it. I dont want to switch to Nolva and then find out my recovery was half ass and it didnt work as well as my Clomid would have.

See a response based on plenty of personal expieience, although it doesnt say senior mod by your name so i think im gonna only half listen. also whats your opinion on liquidex.

 

[Popichulo]

See a response based on plenty of personal expieience, although it doesnt say senior mod by your name so i think im gonna only half listen. also whats your opinion on liquidex.

Not too big on liquidex but I have femara to that for not having boobs. I run femara/Letro in every cycle I do regardless of what im taking.

 

[GETinIN]

DBOL at beginning and end of testenanthate and tren acetate?

Is it ok to do this or will i gain a little water at the end and loose it again during pct?

 

[GETinIN]

also i am taking arimidex at the moment and just took my last shot of test.when should i stop with the arimidex?I have SARMS that i intend to start along with clomid for pct starting 2 weeks from today.So would it help to take low mg of dbol for 12 days?Thanks in advance for any professional comments.

 

[hatefulONE]

Ever since I tried torem for pct I haven't gone back. If you can use torem. Otherwise I feel clomid is better than nolva, considering toxicity and other factors.

 

[coolhandjames]

Nolva and clomid with a splash of arimidex.

Btw just consider the fact that pct HELPS recovery, just nudges your body in the right direction so to speak. Dont think of pct drugs as cures or differences in opinion as end-all protocals when reading swale's or pheendo's recomendations. I know plenty of guys who dont even bother with post cycle therapy (pct). To each his own.

Good man, i like this ^^^^^

 

[Matt Jax]

WTF? This is from 2006!

 

[Colbert]

WTF? This is from 2006!

Holy shit it is! I didn't even notice that...WOW! I wonder how it didn't turn into a massive thread.

Does anybody believe that the OP is right?