Peptide dose(s) to heal shoulder

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Paintime

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Hello All,

Just need some help here so I decided to rejoin and ask the experts.
So I've injured my shoulder(s) training and don't want to have surgery as I don't think it's not too serious. I had read that people are given steroids and such to help the healing process.
I started doing some research and found that HGH would help the healing process more than a test cycle so to speak. As I continued researching online I found that 2 specific peptides would do the best job. GHRP and IGF-1 One of them is even site specific to direct healing to the injury location. I figure I need to get the MGF IGF not the r3 and I will go with GHRP-2 as I don't want the appetite increase that I have read that comes with the GHRP-6. This is good for me because it's cheaper than HGH and only should be run for 4-6 weeks where as with HGH it must be run for 3 months minimum.

So now my question...
Basically I need help figuring out the dosing.
Of these they say not to go above 1mcg/1kg of body weight because that is the saturation point. But then I am reading that you have to pin this 2-3 times per day to be effective. So I am guessing it has a very short half life because it says to wait at least 3 hours. Some people are saying 40-60mcgs where other places I read say minimum is 100mcg 2-3times/day.
I am not looking for a bodybuilding dose but I am also not looking for the minimum dose for healing, I would like a moderate dose in the middle so I can help the healing process while maintaining or slightly adding to my gains from a test cycle a few months back.
Also, I ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before PCT of the test cycle so I am familiar with mixing the power with Bac water, storage and administration etc... Sorry for the long post, but I figure more info is better than less.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, I realize there is a peptide forum, but there are far more people in this forum and I do see some peptide threads in here from time to time.
 
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Hmm. I think you are confused on a lot of information.

First off gh will be your best option but depends on the type and severity of injury, how long you have had it etc. It may help but might not.

Ghrp's are used in combination with a ghrh, specifically mod grf 1-29. The reason for use is to create a natural pulse of gh but much greater than what the body would produce on it's own. A ghrp on it's own will cause a release of gh but no where close to what a ghrp/ghrh combo will.

Don't waste your time/money on just one. Use both or not at all.

For ghrp/ghrh 100mcg 3 x a day is a good dosing protocol.
Do not get cjc w/DAC. This is for women.

As far as igf, you want igf DES or igf lr3 or both.

60-100mcg

Most dose DES pre workout. I think I am getting away from that and will with dose it in the morning or pwo.

All igf will be systemic including mgf. Mgf actually gets taken into the blood stream fast. I would use DES and microdose it around the injured area or lr3 and do the same. You can pin multiple times with 60-100mcg all about 1/2 inch apart.
 
There is no point in using ghrp/ghrh during the "off time". Gh peptides work in the same way as gh, they need constant, consistent use to be effective so 30 on 30 off is an ineffective way to use those.
 
UserAt204 said:
For ghrp/ghrh 100mcg 3 x a day is a good dosing protocol.
Do not get cjc w/DAC. This is for women.

As far as igf, you want igf DES or igf lr3 or both.

60-100mcg

Most dose DES pre workout. I think I am getting away from that and will with dose it in the morning or pwo.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Do you pin the IGF 2-3 times/day as well or just the ghrp/ghrh?

What do you think about just using IGF only? If so which one would be best for me?

Thanks again.
 
Paintime said:
Thanks for the feedback.
Do you pin the IGF 2-3 times/day as well or just the ghrp/ghrh?

What do you think about just using IGF only? If so which one would be best for me?

Thanks again.
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IGF1LR3 is once a day! I would use the GHRP/GHRH combo 3 times a day as this is what create the GH release. IGF is the after product of the GH release once processed threw the liver!

I believe HGH would be the best to use personally. Or better yet a combo of them all!

I have a friend that used IGF1LR3 in the shoulder after surgery He raved about the recovery!

I'm am Going under the nife on the 31st! I will be using a combo of GH GHRP/GHRH and LR3

After extensive research it is my belief and I dont have a clear answer on this! But my thoughts are we are missing some thing thats happening in the synergy GHRP/GHRH and LR3 as they same to work much better when all three are used!

Just my thoughts

Example we now know MGF is a byproduct of a GH responce caused by working out or putting stess on our muscles! I believe this is an important factor in Hyperplasia and the first step in releasing satilite cells! Then along come IGF1 and marries up with these cells! Kaboom we now have the start of new muscle cells! Or (hyperplasia)

This has been studied and proven! So you will often see guys using MGF imediatly pwo and LR3 30 min to an hour later!

Would be nice If these types of things were tested in a clinical study and provide results on some of the above combinations when used to gether!
 
Phatbastard said:
IGF1LR3 is once a day! I would use the GHRP/GHRH combo 3 times a day as this is what create the GH release. IGF is the after product of the GH release once processed threw the liver!

I believe HGH would be the best to use personally. Or better yet a combo of them all!

I have a friend that used IGF1LR3 in the shoulder after surgery He raved about the recovery!

I'm am Going under the nife on the 31st! I will be using a combo of GH GHRP/GHRH and LR3

After extensive research it is my belief and I dont have a clear answer on this! But my thoughts are we are missing some thing thats happening in the synergy GHRP/GHRH and LR3 as they same to work much better when all three are used!

Just my thoughts

Example we now know MGF is a byproduct of a GH responce caused by working out or putting stess on our muscles! I believe this is an important factor in Hyperplasia and the first step in releasing satilite cells! Then along come IGF1 and marries up with these cells! Kaboom we now have the start of new muscle cells! Or (hyperplasia)

This has been studied and proven! So you will often see guys using MGF imediatly pwo and LR3 30 min to an hour later!

Would be nice If these types of things were tested in a clinical study and provide results on some of the above combinations when used to gether!
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This is what I did to help me recover from shoulder injuries too. These compounds are synergistic with eachother's and help prolong eachother half-life too. THE MAIN THING to remember is its not magic and you are not a machine. Rest it well. You go balls out and you will injure it more. Be careful bud.
 
ErectusMaximus said:
This is what I did to help me recover from shoulder injuries too. These compounds are synergistic with eachother's and help prolong eachother half-life too. THE MAIN THING to remember is its not magic and you are not a machine. Rest it well. You go balls out and you will injure it more. Be careful bud.
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Guess I will keep watching the 3am info merchials for that damn majic pill LOL

LOL in all seriousness. I am just intrested in seeing the difference in recovery time is all! I'm no virgin to shoulder surgerys unfortunatly. this will be #4 or 5 now over the years! None of which came from training!
 
Right man, I read a lot of your posts Phat I remember you have had 1 surgery on the left and 4 on the right and then one will be on Jan 31st????? I think thats what you said but not gonna sweat the details. I know you know its no magic, I meant that to the OP.

I think you will have an increased recovery speed and best wishes to you and your health!
 
I appreciate all of the info and I can't wait to get started.
Let me know what you think of this:

This would be per/day.
I know it's only 2xs/day but I don't care for pinning that much and this is already 3 pins.

Afternoon- ghrp 100mcg ghrh 100mcg

Afterworkout- ghrp 100mcg ghrh 100mcg

45mins later- IGF-1mgf 60mcg

Run GHRP/GHRH for 4 weeks and IGF-1 for 6 weeks.

Also, after I reconstitute the ghrp and the ghrh is it OK to mix them together.
Otherwise I will have to double draw with same pin before pinning, not sure if that will dull it too much.
Thanks again for all the info.
 
planb said:
Userat204,

cjc1295 is for women?
I never heard that. I'm currently using it with ghrp6.
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No Bro he states CJC1295 with DAC is for women not CJC1295 w/o Dac this if for men.
He also recomends when Ordering you CJC 1295 to look for (MOD 1-29)

The DAC extends the half life to days! This is simular to the way women produce GH! Termed the GH BLEED!

I hope this clarifys things for you!
 
Paintime said:
I appreciate all of the info and I can't wait to get started.
Let me know what you think of this:

This would be per/day.
I know it's only 2xs/day but I don't care for pinning that much and this is already 3 pins.

Afternoon- ghrp 100mcg ghrh 100mcg

Afterworkout- ghrp 100mcg ghrh 100mcg

45mins later- IGF-1mgf 60mcg

Run GHRP/GHRH for 4 weeks and IGF-1 for 6 weeks.

Also, after I reconstitute the ghrp and the ghrh is it OK to mix them together.
Otherwise I will have to double draw with same pin before pinning, not sure if that will dull it too much.
Thanks again for all the info.
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If your set on only 3 injections a day! I would change it up like this!

1st GHRP/GHRH inject first thing in am upon waking

IGF1LR3 Aprox 30 min pwo!

2nd GHRP/GHRH just before bed

just my opinion
 
Phatbastard said:
If your set on only 3 injections a day! I would change it up like this!

1st GHRP/GHRH inject first thing in am upon waking

IGF1LR3 Aprox 30 min pwo!

2nd GHRP/GHRH just before bed

just my opinion
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Shouldn't I be using the IGF-1 MGF instead of the IGF-1R3? I read that the MGF is better for healing injuries or is the R3 just a better version? Or is it OK to use both and if so dose the same? Sorry for all the questions, just wanna measure 100 times cut once before I move forward.
 
Paintime said:
Shouldn't I be using the IGF-1 MGF instead of the IGF-1R3? I read that the MGF is better for healing injuries or is the R3 just a better version? Or is it OK to use both and if so dose the same? Sorry for all the questions, just wanna measure 100 times cut once before I move forward.
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I was addressing your your desire to pin 3 times a day

If you want to add MGF to the mix pin it right after your work out! Then IGF of your choise 30min to an hour after that!

My Igf of choice id LR3

Most using Des will pin it pre workout then use some thing like the protocal with the MGF LR3 post work out!
 
Phatbastard said:
I was addressing your your desire to pin 3 times a day

If you want to add MGF to the mix pin it right after your work out! Then IGF of your choise 30min to an hour after that!

My Igf of choice id LR3

Most using Des will pin it pre workout then use some thing like the protocal with the MGF LR3 post work out!
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I thought MGF was IGF or a type of it.
So would it be OK to mix the IGF-1MGF with the IGF-1R3 and pin that mixture after workout?
Then the GHRP/GHRH mixture upon wake and before sleep?
 
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