Peptides?

The HGH frag may work well for you. For some it doesn't seem to do much. With the cjc start small like 25 to 50mcg. I have no personal experience with S4. I would prefer to use ostarine over the S4.

Thanks 204!!! Any advice on what to use for clean gains with not h2o retention? Need to see some bulk within 7-8 weeks:dance2:
 
Thanks 204!!! Any advice on what to use for clean gains with not h2o retention? Need to see some bulk within 7-8 weeks:dance2:

HGH Frag, IGF DES is my favorite for lean mass from Purchase Peptide. When HGH makes it pass through the liver, a release of IGF-1 is a result. IGF-1 appears to be the key player in muscle growth. It stimulates both the differentiation and proliferation of myoblast. It also stimulates amino acid uptake and protein synthesis in muscle and other tissues. While HGH will cause an increase in your IGF-1 level over the course of a few months, HGH has a cumulative effect, so the addition of IGF-1 will greatly speed up the time to results.
 
I love igf but I don't think it actually works the same as igf that's created within the body. I see it more as glucose disposal, shuttling nutrients similar to insulin but it helps promote muscle growth. I just don't see it creating new cells. I've spent a lot of time using it in many different ways and while I think it's helpful I just wouldn't expect to make any significant gains from it. JMO. I have seen it work very well for females tho
 
HGH Frag, IGF DES is my favorite for lean mass from Purchase Peptide. When HGH makes it pass through the liver, a release of IGF-1 is a result. IGF-1 appears to be the key player in muscle growth. It stimulates both the differentiation and proliferation of myoblast. It also stimulates amino acid uptake and protein synthesis in muscle and other tissues. While HGH will cause an increase in your IGF-1 level over the course of a few months, HGH has a cumulative effect, so the addition of IGF-1 will greatly speed up the time to results.

I love IGF1 lr3 myself.
good stuff.
PP just got the lr3 back in stock im looking to grab some :-P
 
I've got 171-199 and CJC and just got s4, but I'm a little weary of it, so I want back up or alternate that is sure to give me the muscle building properties w/out h20 retention.

Anyone used any RUI products?

Thanks!!!! Great thread, very helpful everyone.
 
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How effective would the Ghrp and the Ghrh be if you are already running HGH. Would you do them all at the same time or would that be counter productive. It sounds like Ghrp and Ghrh kinda do the same thing as HGH??? Does anyone have a opinion on that?

Thanks for all of the comments I have really learned a lot.
 
How effective would the Ghrp and the Ghrh be if you are already running HGH. Would you do them all at the same time or would that be counter productive. It sounds like Ghrp and Ghrh kinda do the same thing as HGH??? Does anyone have a opinion on that?

Thanks for all of the comments I have really learned a lot.

it would be good. like this kinda:
 
i would dose the HGH earlyer in the day takin with the first or second dose of the others.

Agreed. I would do it first thing in the am on emty stomach. Are you going to add CJC? It may help you get more out of it as it, in very basic terms, creates a slower and prolonged release. I did rurn HGH alone, several years ago, (not in the USA) and it was amazing. I added Anavar (var) and that was the best cycle I ever did!! Loved it :) Currently HGH is too pricey for me and Anavar (var) is ridiculously hard to find :( boo

how are your results?
 
I think back to the 80's, the philosophy for HGH was do it with Anadrol to potentiate it's effects. When IGF-1 came around it was something to make the HGH work better. Now it's IGF-1 lg3. Well the cycle I just started is

IGF-1 lr3 50 mcg. HGH 4ius. Sustanon (sust). 500mg a wk. Deca 400mg a wk. Letrozole eod. We will see how the traditional approach works out. It's been about 10 day's so far and I've gained 10 lbs with strict dieting, I'm pumped! It has to be the IGF-1, nothing else should be working yet. Started cycle at a natural 225lbs 12% bf. May be I'm a little liberal with the word "natural." It's been about 4 years since I've done anything. And I've taken some Nolvadex for the last 3 months 20mg a day stopping it 2 weeks before starting Letrozole.
 
Agreed. I would do it first thing in the am on emty stomach. Are you going to add CJC? It may help you get more out of it as it, in very basic terms, creates a slower and prolonged release. I did rurn HGH alone, several years ago, (not in the USA) and it was amazing. I added Anavar (var) and that was the best cycle I ever did!! Loved it :) Currently HGH is too pricey for me and Anavar (var) is ridiculously hard to find :( boo

how are your results?
I have only been on the HGH for a week and I have been looking into adding different peptides. I am going to be adding IGF 1 lr3 30mcg a day and I want to add the Ghrp 6 and Ghrh (not sure maybe CJC).
 
I have only been on the HGH for a week and I have been looking into adding different peptides. I am going to be adding IGF 1 lr3 30mcg a day and I want to add the Ghrp 6 and Ghrh (not sure maybe CJC).

LOL, this shopping is much better than shopping for shoes!! I'm constantly thinking about different potential stacks and then researching them- very time consuming!

I am very happy with CJC and S4. From my research IGF seems slightly comparable to Anavar (var) , but much less stressful on your body and without the dehydration effect Anavar (var) has. It's not dehydration, it basically "sucks" the fat cells better (yes I totally dumbed it down but if you want specifics I can unload) than most it is compared to like Winstrol (winny) or Primo. BUT peps- CJC is great for me. HGH when I was in orient was unreal!!!!!!!!
 
Yes many think dosing them together will blunt one or the other and from what I can find is many people are liking gh the igf about an hour later to add to and extend igf levels. Again a lot is still experimental.
 
LOL, this shopping is much better than shopping for shoes!! I'm constantly thinking about different potential stacks and then researching them- very time consuming!

I am very happy with CJC and S4. From my research IGF seems slightly comparable to Anavar (var) , but much less stressful on your body and without the dehydration effect Anavar (var) has. It's not dehydration, it basically "sucks" the fat cells better (yes I totally dumbed it down but if you want specifics I can unload) than most it is compared to like Winstrol (winny) or Primo. BUT peps- CJC is great for me. HGH when I was in orient was unreal!!!!!!!!
Thanks Rock for the information. I will try the same and I am excited for the results. Thanks for sharing your results that really helps.
 
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