PH Cycle and TRT

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AnabolicNoob

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I posted this in another forum, I feel as if it was the wrong one..

Hey guys, new poster here, looking for some basic info. I have tons of more research to do obviously before even considering running a cycle, but just wanted some preliminary advice/direction!

I'm on Testosterone Replacement Therapy - 125mg test cyp/weekly. What are my options?

Can I run a cycle of something while continuing weekly injections? (Note: increasing test cyp dosage isn't possible)

What would be the least harsh on liver/other organs? I've always figured Epi + test cyp would go together well.

How about PCT? What would that consist of? With an already suppressed HPTA, would I just continue on with the test cyp injections?
 
if you run a PH while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) you will still have tes in your body, the cyp will provide it. so you will have a good base and wont get lethary as bad, libido will be much better, etc etc. 40mg of epi for 6wks will do you well.

you have no real need for a post cycle therapy (pct), you will just drop the oral and contine on with your normal cyp dose. using a supp based post cycle therapy (pct) may help keep the gains. DAA is cheap and worthwhile. also take a good amount of creatine while on the epi. it will do much more on cycle than natty.

lots of guys use a ph while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), make sure you use a good liver support product. n2gaurd, forged liver would be good options. really n2G tho... its all in one support. Liver, kidney, BP, prostate, etc etc. all of these will be much lower/better while using a support with a oral.

also once the ph stops you should consider some peptides. igf DES is great, ghrp2/cjc1293 gives great gh pulses and can also lean you out too.
 
^^excellent advise here all around. I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too have run a PH before, but usually blast with AAS. I use peptides as well. Def go with the n2guard and the forged liver support if you can afford it while on the epi.
 
MeatHead96 said:
^^excellent advise here all around. I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too have run a PH before, but usually blast with AAS. I use peptides as well. Def go with the n2guard and the forged liver support if you can afford it while on the epi.
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That.

Also Epi will be very beneficial for you considering it has great effects on libido/well being. My favorite so far! I have a guy who comes into my work and buys DecaFire which is 6 PH's in one!! Guy is 65 years old says he loves how it makes him feel, guessing he uses it as his own form of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) if that makes sense, i told him about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) from doctors but doubt he looked into it yet. Looks like the dude is in pretty good shape for his age too :D
 
I'd probably be more interested in the peptides than a PH. I just don't have the access to syringes. Less side effects I'm assuming from the peptides.

Peptides administered SubQ or IM? I thought I remember hearing SubQ.

If anyone has links to sort of "all you need to know about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and PH/Peptides", that would be much appreciated. If you guys want to keep giving info, by all means help me out! I just realize it's easier to read a sticky somewhere. Everything seems a little different with being on TRT.
 
Just to add on, if someone has a suggestion for a non-methlyated PH (first time user), let me know!

How's Andromass/Androhard?
 
AnabolicNoob said:
Just to add on, if someone has a suggestion for a non-methlyated PH (first time user), let me know!

How's Andromass/Androhard?
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Non-methyls are generally worthless IMO...Also I think those Andro products are worthless...I personally love Epi but I would use Liv.52 for your liver--> you can get it on amazon dirt cheap and it's the best liver protection to have (better than n2guard and forged liver support previously mentioned) then pick up something for blood pressure and cholesterol (n2guard is good but there are much more economical options)


As for peptides--> they are a good option as well. They won't provide an immediate improvement and must be run for 4-6 months to get some real benefit but you don't have to worry about all the other nasty sides. I would recommend peptides over PHs any day. You can get insulin syringes online without a prescription for dirt cheap-> yes you inject peptides sub-q
 
AnabolicNoob said:
Just to add on, if someone has a suggestion for a non-methlyated PH (first time user), let me know!

How's Andromass/Androhard?
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Considering we have many who use AH and AM on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with great success I suggest you try it. They are both effective and very safe especially compared to a methyl. We are also coming out with AndroEnhance which is a topical currently being tested by several people including some on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and we have had great feedback on it.
 
ryansm said:
Considering we have many who use AH and AM on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with great success I suggest you try it. They are both effective and very safe especially compared to a methyl. We are also coming out with AndroEnhance which is a topical currently being tested by several people including some on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and we have had great feedback on it.
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Can you explain in detail how testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and Androhard/Mass go hand-in-hand? Maybe the MOA, or something in laymen's terms.
 
AnabolicNoob said:
I'd probably be more interested in the peptides than a PH. I just don't have the access to syringes. Less side effects I'm assuming from the peptides.

Peptides administered SubQ or IM? I thought I remember hearing SubQ.

If anyone has links to sort of "all you need to know about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and PH/Peptides", that would be much appreciated. If you guys want to keep giving info, by all means help me out! I just realize it's easier to read a sticky somewhere. Everything seems a little different with being on TRT.
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I would consider running maybe a cjc 1295 (no dac) w/ ghrp-2 combo while on TRT. Syringes are very easy to obtain online, one of our site sponsers carries them. As far as a PH maybe consider epistane. This is a fairly mild compound.
 
AnabolicNoob said:
Can you explain in detail how testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and Androhard/Mass go hand-in-hand? Maybe the MOA, or something in laymen's terms.
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Comes down to DHT based PH's such as AndroHard, giving more of the benefits from that hormone i.e. hardness, libido, fat loss, energy, etc. We have had many report that it enhances the overall testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) therapy.
 
IM in the same situation as the OP. Im on 75mg of test cyp per week for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), and was wanting to run a cycle of epi, but im a virgin to PH's with execption of some 11 oxo. My biggest concern is post cycle therapy (pct) and gyno! Would i need a SERM on hand just to be on the safe side, or would something like forma-stanzol be ok? I was going to get some Liv 52 and Organ Shield, do i need to pre-load it for a week prior to running epi? Trying to shed that last 20lbs, if i can add some lean muscle in the process, that would be great too!

The peptides look very promising, between the DES, cjc 1295, and GHRP, what is the optimum combo?

Appreciate all the help and feeedback i can get....
 
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