Planning my next cycle, Sustanon and ???

[SDee]

Currently planning my second cycle, first cycle was the typical 12-Day Test E cycle, it was fine but I could make it better, looking forward to my next cycle

I will be starting it after 2 months so am still checking my options, so PCT will be sorted out later.. after deciding what to run..

Current Stats:
27 Years / 5'11'' / 188LB / 13BF
Currently cutting to the 10%.. will start the cycle from that point

Cycle Goal: Lean gains and diet will be adumjusted for that purpose
Cobstrains: I really wish not to pin more than twice a week


I will be running Sustanon this time instead of Test E..
I need help with what to run alongside the test? minimal side preferred.. and not something that needs to be pinned eod or so..

 

[Novaguy]

Currently planning my second cycle, first cycle was the typical 12-Day Test E cycle, it was fine but I could make it better, looking forward to my next cycle

I will be starting it after 2 months so am still checking my options, so PCT will be sorted out later.. after deciding what to run..

Current Stats:
27 Years / 5'11'' / 188LB / 13BF
Currently cutting to the 10%.. will start the cycle from that point

Cycle Goal: Lean gains and diet will be adumjusted for that purpose
Cobstrains: I really wish not to pin more than twice a week


I will be running Sustanon this time instead of Test E..
I need help with what to run alongside the test? minimal side preferred.. and not something that needs to be pinned eod or so..

Your first cycle was 12 days??

SUST should be pinned eod or 3x a week due to the mix of short and long esters.

 

[Buzzbait]

My personal opinion, I wouldn't run sust, because of the different esters. Go with test c or e every 3 1/2 days or prop ed or eod.

 

[SDee]

Your first cycle was 12 days??

SUST should be pinned eod or 3x a week due to the mix of short and long esters.

come on man, 12-Week..

Well, read several studies and topocs stating that it is fine to run Sustanon twice per week, the short esters are minority compared to longer esters

Why I chose Sustanon over Test E is that Test E takes a real long time to kick in, annoying to be honest...

 

[tbonexl]

Then why did you start a thread?

 

[Roush]

come on man, 12-Week..

Well, read several studies and topocs stating that it is fine to run Sustanon twice per week, the short esters are minority compared to longer esters

Why I chose Sustanon over Test E is that Test E takes a real long time to kick in, annoying to be honest...

If the short Esther's are really that much of a minority like u say,, why do you think it will kick in noticeably faster?

If you want things to kick in faster just run a test e cycle with a test prop front load, or a Dbol kick start

 

[Novaguy]

come on man, 12-Week..

Well, read several studies and topocs stating that it is fine to run Sustanon twice per week, the short esters are minority compared to longer esters

Why I chose Sustanon over Test E is that Test E takes a real long time to kick in, annoying to be honest...

Bro! You just said it yourself, the SUST has mostly long esters. It's not going to spike your blood levels an insane amount faster than test e. You're better off sticking with test e or c since you want to pin as least as possible.

 

[Novaguy]

You beat me to the punch Roush

 

[Onk]

and then run var or tbol with it and you're all sorted!

 

[Roush]

If you wanna run two compounds and your dead set on only pinning twice a week then this may be an option-
400 mg test c
400 mg deca
With a bottle dosage at
200mg/10 ml of each - test cyp and deca

So Monday one shot with 1cc of deca and 1cc of test - repeat on Friday
That's two shots a week with 2 cc (2 cc is about the most guys like to shoot,, though gluteus can handle more)..

If your wanting shorter Esther's and faster acting like a test prop, your just gonna have to pin often.
But the above dosage for 14 weeks should yield good results

 

[Onk]

If your wanting shorter Esther's a

I prefer my Esther's taller rather than shorter

 

[Roush]

I prefer my Esther's taller rather than shorter

You gotta love iPads auto spell correct.. Gotta get ahold of apple and let em know what an "ester" is!
Actually did notice the auto correct, just too lazy to go back and manually edit it.

As far as Esther's go,, I'll take Mordecai's Esther from Esther verse 2:7, tall or short she must a been hot hot

 

[SDee]

I assume that even if the short esters were minority compared to the longer esters, it would still kick in faster than Test E.. anyways, not a big deal, let my main question be:

What to add to a 500mg of Test that will be pinned twice a week (E, C or Sustanon) minimal side, dry gains (thats why kicking with a dianabol is kot an option) and improve cuts and definition

var would be a real great option! but I doubt being able to get any legit var..

 

[Onk]

that's why I suggested tbol, quite common and not as big for water retention that dbol is

 

[SDee]

TBol to kick start sounds like a real good idea.. for how long would u suggest? if we assumed a cycle of 12W Sus or Test E
is source talk allowed in here?

 

[Onk]

you can't ask for sources, but we can talk about which ones we use...

Tbol
wk 1-5 or 1-7
70mg ED
would be right for me, maybe 50-70mg if you aren't sure

 

[SDee]

So currently thinking about this..
Weeks 1-12 : Sustanon 250 x 2 / Week
Weeks 1-6 : TBol @ 50mg
Arimidex throughout the cycle.. not sure about HCG, didnt use it on my first cycle and was fine..

PCT: The typical Nolva 40-20-20-20,, Clomid 100-50-50-50 4-Week PCT

Suggestions? Ran Test E on first Cycle, most probably using Sustanon this time.. will do more research and if I find out that am good to go with two shots per week am sticking witb it

 

[SDee]

Will be gettig TBol from Istanbul as I will be there next week.. is it OTC there? like Primo and Arimidex..

and any tested legit Var? Would love to run Var.. but dont want to end up buyijg an expensive Stano!!

and what would the price of a legit tbol be?

 

[Repo]

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I prefer my Esther's taller rather than shorter

Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son?

Not sure if you'll get this from Sydney?