Post cycle question

[swebb]

Going on a Winstrol inj. only 50 mg EOD for my first cycle. I know I do not need Clomid or Nolva but do you think I should take something for the shut down? (I know this is not the cycle of choice (test is) but aside from that).
I will also take alot of ALA and milk thistle.
Another question is.. how many of you think i should go 50mg ED instead? Thanks

 

[StoneColdNTO]

You will still get shut down, so you are going to need something to help you restart your HPTA.

As for 50mg ED or EOD, what are your stats, age, weight, height, bf%, lifting experience, and goal of cycle.

 

[swebb]

Im going for 50 EOD, first cycle so.. Ive been training for 5 years and im about 200 pounds with 13 %...
What should I use for the HPTA restart. Ive had some friends how did this cycle for 6 weeks without any post at all and the doctor said to him that it would tak a couple of weeks and then it would be ok.. without any treatment that is.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I'd use either:

Clomid like this;
day 1 - 300mg
day 2-11 - 100mg/day
day 12-21 - 50mg/day

or

Nolvadex like this;
day 1-14 - 40mg/day
day 15-28 - 20mg/day

BTW, you never answered how old you are ................

 

[swebb]

Im 24.. okay so this is enough as a post cycle? My friend whos done these cycles without any post? is it only because your own production bounces back faster if you do clomid/nolva? because for them it went back naturally

 

[mdagz]

Im 24.. okay so this is enough as a post cycle? My friend whos done these cycles without any post? is it only because your own production bounces back faster if you do clomid/nolva? because for them it went back naturally

PCT speeds up the bodys natural production of test... which limits muscle loss when u come off cycle.

 

[mdagz]

the faster u can get your body to regulate its hormone levels the more of the muscle you will keep. assuming your diet is in check.

 

[swebb]

so which do you prefer? clomid or nolvadex?
With this I was thinking of taking ALA and milk thistle, how much of this ED?

 

[havetobebull]

sorry to interrupt, but what does post cycle therapy (pct) stands for?

 

[swebb]

Should I not continue the clomid/nolvadex also after the cycle to raise levels? Nolvadex seems to be more liver toxic should I go with clomid instead since Winstrol also is liver toxic?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

sorry to interrupt, but what does post cycle therapy (pct) stands for?

Post Cycle Therapy

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Should I not continue the clomid/nolvadex also after the cycle to raise levels? Nolvadex seems to be more liver toxic should I go with clomid instead since Winstrol also is liver toxic?

Sorry but either I am confused by your question or else you misunderstand some things here.......

PCT is "after' the cycle.........you do not need an anti-E during a Winstrol (winny) cycle as it does not aromatase.

Nolva is not liver toxic, atleast to the best of my knowledge.

 

[voodoozyme]

yes winstrol in liver toxic along with most other orals. give you body two days to restore the liver before post cycle therapy (pct).
I was wondering if you should start post cycle therapy (pct) emidiatley after stoping a cycle like this or should you wait the usual test rate of two weeks before starting post cycle therapy (pct)?

 

[Batman]

You go with post cycle therapy (pct) immediately after finish.

 

[swebb]

hmm that was what I was thinking stonecold... Thanks! so you prefer nolva from clomid?

 

[swebb]

and how much ALA and milk thistle should i take? or do you think I should skip this during this cycle?

 

[swebb]

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