post-therapy question

[jayboy]

i just ended my cycle of 500mg/sust and 500mg/deca a week for nine weeks, my last was today, when should i start taking my hcg, clomid, and nolva and how much should i take as well as how long. thanks for the help

 

[bigtattoo]

Clomid and nolvadex 2 weeks after last test or 3 weeks after last deca,so 3 weeks.Leave the hcg for next cycle and run it throughout.

 

[Vegas]

clomid, and nolva and how much should i take as well as how long. thanks for the help

Take 100mgs of clomid per day, 20mg of nolva per day for 30 days. Next time I would also recommend that you figure this type of stuff out before you begin a cycle. A better laid out cycle would also have helped. But the important thing now is to do a proper post cycle therapy (pct) run.

 

[yankeesuck]

Take the HCG three weeks after your last injection

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Take the HCG three weeks after your last injection

WRONG, wrong, and just plain old WRONG !!

You can take HCG now, but make sure you stop a couple days before you start post cycle therapy (pct). HCG is suppressive to recovery of your HPTA, that is why you need to stop it BEFORE you start post cycle therapy (pct).

Start actual post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after last injection.

 

[jayboy]

thank you,

 

[yankeesuck]

Dude this is what my doctor who takes care of all of the bodybuilders in my gym says to do. This is not my opinion. Are you saying the doctor is wrong? If so I'd be interested to learn why. Not being confrontational at all man. I just want to know your reasoning. The HCG is rather ineffective or completely ineffective while androgens are still high. what sense is it to take it if it's useless to do so until the levels decrease??

 

[BigRonWannabee]

Dude this is what my doctor who takes care of all of the bodybuilders in my gym says to do. This is not my opinion. Are you saying the doctor is wrong? If so I'd be interested to learn why. Not being confrontational at all man. I just want to know your reasoning. The HCG is rather ineffective or completely ineffective while androgens are still high. what sense is it to take it if it's useless to do so until the levels decrease??

HCG is suppressive...and no its not ineffective when androgens are still high...ineffective at what??

 

[GangstaDave01]

Dude this is what my doctor who takes care of all of the bodybuilders in my gym says to do. This is not my opinion. Are you saying the doctor is wrong? If so I'd be interested to learn why. Not being confrontational at all man. I just want to know your reasoning. The HCG is rather ineffective or completely ineffective while androgens are still high. what sense is it to take it if it's useless to do so until the levels decrease??

many people run hcg through out the duration of their cycle, when androgens are at their highest...

 

[Bast]

If he was on only 500mg test E for like 12 weeks, and did his post cycle therapy (pct) with nolva.. what would that look like?
starting 3 weeks post yeah.. but then?

 

[Vegas]

If he was on only 500mg test E for like 12 weeks, and did his post cycle therapy (pct) with nolva.. what would that look like?
starting 3 weeks post yeah.. but then?

First, he would start 14 days after his last shot, not 21. For a nolva only post cycle therapy (pct) I would run 40mgs for the first 14 days, and 20mgs for the last 14 days. However, I would strongly urge anyone to use clomid with nolva.

 

[Bast]

Most I know use nolva only, and thats what the most ppl ive read do to? Why use clomid over nolva?

 

[BigRonWannabee]

First, he would start 14 days after his last shot, not 21. For a nolva only post cycle therapy (pct) I would run 40mgs for the first 14 days, and 20mgs for the last 14 days. However, I would strongly urge anyone to use clomid with nolva.

Good advice right here. For anyone interested in learning why, research "pheendo's post cycle therapy (pct) protocal" either here or at its home at AR.

 

[Vegas]

research "pheendo's post cycle therapy (pct) protocal" either here or at its home at AR.

Actually, Pheendo has his own board now, IronCorps.com.