Pre Cycle Blood work results in......test levels low

[Gs2isf]

Hey guys. I did my very first cycle last summer....pct was over last week of Nov 2013. Consisted of just Test E 500mg weekly. Pct was just Nolva for 5 weeks. No AI no Hcg. I took my best friends advice since he's been cycling for the last 12 years with no issues so I didn't run an AI since he believes that hinders gains. Now I know better not to do that again. Anyhow I'm 39 years old and managed to put on 16 lbs after my 13 week cycle. 5 months later I've kept 8lbs of those with BF hovering around 11-12 and strength has stayed pretty close to when I was on cycle. Went to get my bloods done for my next cycle and most stuff seems to be ok except my test levels are at 357! Isn't that too low? Or does my age play a factor into that?

Here are my results (just the basic ones that should matter)

Test 357
LH 5.2
FSH 4.1
Estradiol 22.6
Hemoglobin 16.0
Hematocrit 46.7
BUN was high @ 21.....not sure what BUN is?


Does anything else seem out of whack? Or is there anything. else I can post results wise? With these results am I fine to start my next cycle? Or should I try to get my test level up some? Hope I can get some feedbackk....thank you !

 

[DrHouse]

Exogenous test shuts down natural production. Maybe it's your age, maybe you haven't fully recovered or it may be a thousand different things. 357 is within the normal range and unless you feel crummy I wouldn't worry until it's lower. Using gear is a risk we all take in terms of shutting ourselves down. If you're ok with going on TRT eventually don't even worry about pct or hcg on cycle. I'd recommend holding off as long as possible for TRT. Use the AI, hcg on cycle, nova AND clomid pct

 

[Gs2isf]

Thanks for the feedback....I don't feel crummy at all still hit the gym 5x week hard and my erections are rock hard....just seeing such a low number for Test baffles me. With my number will bumping my test E up to 750 or 800 a smart thing to do?

 

[DrHouse]

Thanks for the feedback....I don't feel crummy at all still hit the gym 5x week hard and my erections are rock hard....just seeing such a low number for Test baffles me. With my number will bumping my test E up to 750 or 800 a smart thing to do?

Absolutely not. It's not exact but 100mg exogenous is approximately 1000ng/dL total test. 400-500mg is plenty until you achieve a physique that requires more.

I don't recall you stating your goals or current stats. I just saw the weight you've gained and your age

 

[Gs2isf]

Absolutely not. It's not exact but 100mg exogenous is approximately 1000ng/dL total test. 400-500mg is plenty until you achieve a physique that requires more.

I don't recall you stating your goals or current stats. I just saw the weight you've gained and your age

I'm 5'6" 170 with bf around 11-12%. I'd like to be a steady and solid 180.
Been working out 5x week for 5 years (started @140 lbs) goal is to put on a bit more mass. Diet is very good. I decided to cycle because I was stuck at around 160-163 lbs for a year prior to first cycle. I def kept a solid 6 lbs of muscle since cycle. Clothing from last spring to this spring are much tighter at the legs and chest/arms/shoulders.

 

[DrHouse]

Test cycle would be sufficient to achieve your goals. 400-600mg.

 

[Gs2isf]

Test cycle would be sufficient to achieve your goals. 400-600mg.

Thanks for all your help....that's what I was planning on doing it's good to hear the same thoughts from someone else...I appreciate the help. Thnx!

 

[Megatron28]

You are borderline hypogonadal. Too bad you didn't get blood work before you ran your cycle to establish your baseline.

Regardless, I would recommend trying PCT again - Nolva and clomid - to see if you can fire up your HPTA again. Don't run another cycle again and potentially further suppress your HPTA. You are really close to having to go on TRT. 357 is way too low for your age.

 

[Gs2isf]

You are borderline hypogonadal. Too bad you didn't get blood work before you ran your cycle to establish your baseline.

Regardless, I would recommend trying PCT again - Nolva and clomid - to see if you can fire up your HPTA again. Don't run another cycle again and potentially further suppress your HPTA. You are really close to having to go on TRT. 357 is way too low for your age.

What dosage of Clomid/Nolva? And for how long?

 

[Nightmare007]

Do you have a baseline?
And what are the units your results are in?

 

[Nightmare007]

Either way I'd rec trying this out
Hcg 1000ius Ed 10 days followed by

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
After a week get bloodwork again
Hope this helps

 

[Gs2isf]

Either way I'd rec trying this out
Hcg 1000ius Ed 10 days followed by

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
After a week get bloodwork again
Hope this helps

I never got a baseline number.....seems a pct restart is my best option from what I've read. Thank you for the input.