Pre workout sup or drink ?

Agreed, except if were talking about Pre workout supplements containing creatine or A NO stimulator or things of that nature. Then we know for a fact they are increasing gains.

True. I was referring to products like nitric oxide boosters or caffeine containing supps!
 
i just picked up something from gaspari.. cant remember the name of it.. tried it twice.. i like milder pre workout supps.. i was using 1.m.r before they changed the formula.. that shit was like crack..
 
Just started Stimul8 by Finaplex. It has the new 1, 3 Tri-methyl.

shit blew my head off. DO NOT take more than one scoop. Even half a scoop makes me so chilled I have to wear a jacket while working out. Chilled and sweaty all at the same time...
 
i just picked up something from gaspari.. cant remember the name of it.. tried it twice.. i like milder pre workout supps.. i was using 1.m.r before they changed the formula.. that shit was like crack..

Bro that shit would light my entire body on fire! Now it's crap
 
I've honestly tried hundreds of pre workouts over the years. I now don't just buy a pre workout. Rather I look at the ingredient list and look for the things I like/are scientifically proven to help blood flow, energy, etc.

I'm currently using Platinum Pre as it has a hefty dose of caffeine and the clinical dose of citrulline malate and beta alanine.
 
Most use caffeine/beta-alanine. 1 more rep is beast, so is jack3d. One of them had their active ingredient cut out recently. I dont remember which. It had some kind of meth like substance in it. Really poweful
 
Pre-workouts can increase your gains depending on how much harder you can train on them. If they don't really make you lift more(weight/reps/volume) then they won't really affect your gains. Just like Dre said
 
i just picked up something from gaspari.. cant remember the name of it.. tried it twice.. i like milder pre workout supps.. i was using 1.m.r before they changed the formula.. that shit was like crack..

3J, is it Superdrive?? if so that stuff is BOSS!!! Very potent.
 
Manski, the compound that gave me the most energy i've ever gotten from something is ephedrine/caffeine stack. 1 bronkaid and 1 caffeine tablet. It was serious beast energy and not the nervous kind. Mildly euphoric and natural. Felt like i was a kid again, that kind of energy. Serious gym motivation as well. Everyone here should give it a shot, especially on a tough cut. You will have the same, if not more energy than maintenance/bulk and you should be able to hit the weights just as hard to keep your gains. It can be cycled but the fat burning effect is improved with chronic use. The energy effect goes away the longer you use it, so for that purpose it should be cycled.

Back in the day when that stacker shit actually worked, the main ingredient was the herb ephedra. It got taken off the market because idiots(of course) abused it and died. Some peeps recommend a max intake of the stack three times a day. I found once a day to be enough for me. No side effects other than appetite suppression and boundless clean energy. This stuff is CHEAP too. The only tricky part is finding it, i hear some people have trouble. I never did though, local cvs carried it.
 
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Thanks bro. Yeah back in earlyamd mid 90s I was taking caffeine pills with ephedra and aspirin 3 times a day ! Totally burned fat and great pre workout mix. Kind of like clen. Would love to do that again but ephedra hard to find anymore and FDA really watch that stuff.
 
I've honestly tried hundreds of pre workouts over the years. I now don't just buy a pre workout. Rather I look at the ingredient list and look for the things I like/are scientifically proven to help blood flow, energy, etc.

I'm currently using Platinum Pre as it has a hefty dose of caffeine and the clinical dose of citrulline malate and beta alanine.

Save yourself some money and just buy the citrulline and ba in bulk. I used to shotgun several grams of each before a workout.
 
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