Primo & Anavar WITHOUT Test (Disadvantages?)

vvjunior

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Hello....I am 27 yo. 1.80 77 kg. I started my first cycle 2 days before with 30mg anavar per day and 1,5ml of primo two times a week. I will follow this for 2 months and i want to know the disadvantages of doing it without testosterone. Is it gonna affect my libido?? what else should i take to protect myself from things as cholesterol, thyroid etc?

Thank you...
 
Read the stickies. No way I would run that without doing the proper research. If u did that u would know to run test as a base
 
thanks for the reply. i did another cycle 2 years before with test,propionate,anavar, winstrol etc. i had very good results after 2 months but in the end i didnt do the post cycle therapy (pct) cycle properly (bad informations) and i had some libido issues and gain loss very quickly. I took pregnyl - nolvadex - clomid but clomid cause me bad headaches and i stopped it. anyway my ormones (thank god) came back to normal and now after 2 years i decide to start again. the guy who manage me and tell me what to do told me that a secure cycle without problems is a "quiet" cycle of primo & anavar withou testo. now that i started with this 2 days now what i have to change before i do something really wrong?
 
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i know i need to study....i am really a rookie. but my english are not very good and some things i cannot understand them. i am trying... i started to read the stickies but i dont know what to do now that i ve allready started this cycle.
 
can someone tell me if this cycle will be bad for my health? or its just NOT so good as if i used test also? if i want to continue with this what more should i use? i didnt want to mess up my ormones again thats why i thought it would be a "safe" cycle. thanks again..
 
add some test to the mix and your good to go, without the test you will be shut down and suffering libido issue early on not just during pct
 
i see....the guy that gave me the stuff told me that no post cycle therapy (pct) cycle needed if i take only anavar and primo. He dont know anything at all isnt he?! if i stop this cycle now that its early yet is there any problem? so i can search enough and start maybe something better after i am sure of what i should take...

P.S: i send you an image with my very first cycle 2 years before so you can tell me your opinion and if its good to do this therapy View attachment 550477again. i send you the first 4 weeks in an attachment.
 
I'm assuming you don't have a vagina. That cycle blows. Unless of course you have a vagina. Both compounds will shut you down. Test is a must.

Now let focus on you cycle. Primo is best run at 600-1gm a week. The Anavar (var) needs to be in 50mg + range. You will also need to add at least a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of Test....final note; two months of Primo is a total waste. You need to run it at least 16 weeks. I have never run it less than 20.

You actually picked out two of my favorite compounds. Judging by your lack of knowlage, I would question the quality of your gear is shit. The reality is that both of these compounds are the some of the most commonly faked (primo, usually low dose decca or grape seed oil. Anavar (var) , usage low dose dbol).

Not flaming you, just trying to point out you need to do a lot more research.
 
if i take 600mg primo a week how many mg of test do i have to put also? they told me to take propionate. i can increase also the anavar dose as well. are you suggest me to do this for 16 weeks? and when should i do the post cycle therapy (pct) cycle? in the middle or in the end of the 16 weeks? thank you again....for sure some of the compounds it may be fake but how do i know that? i dont think i can...

p.s : no i dont have a vagina!
 
if i take 600mg primo a week how many mg of test do i have to put also? they told me to take propionate. i can increase also the anavar dose as well. are you suggest me to do this for 16 weeks? and when should i do the post cycle therapy (pct) cycle? in the middle or in the end of the 16 weeks? thank you again....for sure some of the compounds it may be fake but how do i know that? i dont think i can...

p.s : no i dont have a vagina!

Why are you on a cycle if you don't know what you are doing 100% Your asing to shut your endocrine system down. Then you don't even know how to get it back. There is much info on this board to answer every question you have. I know its very easy to get gear but its not ok to use it fi you don't know what your doing to your body.
 
Why are you on a cycle if you don't know what you are doing 100% Your asing to shut your endocrine system down. Then you don't even know how to get it back. There is much info on this board to answer every question you have. I know its very easy to get gear but its not ok to use it fi you don't know what your doing to your body.

i know i have too many questions that probably cant be answered here....anyway...i became a member here just to ask for some better info. i know that i have to do the post cycle therapy (pct) in the end of the "therapy" with pregnyl-nolvadex-clomyd or proviron to get my hormones back to normal. i have my training program and nutrition....i just wanted to boost up for the summer. thats all...
 
....i just wanted to boost up for the summer

Then you really should not being using gear. You just need to get your diet dialed in. Gear is something you want touse when you have peaked at your natural levels to further your training. Not to show off for the summer my friend..
 
Listen to me Greek.....This is how i do things.....Run primo 600mg every week........ test propionate only propionate 50mg every day.....anavar 50mg every day divided into three doses....every 8 hours..20mg,20mg,10mg,the one 20mg half hour before training......lots of aminos,before and after training shit out whey protein.

primo without protein is a waste........
12 week cycle...only......
PCT Start 3 days after your last propionate shot
* ..sylimarin and a lots of water...protein is kind heavy on kidneys
thessaloniki.lol
i dont want to hear again two orals in a cycle....never...my ears are bleeding...

anavar and winstrol...... winstrol oral version
 
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pct

Length: 5 weeks

Layout:
Weeks 1-4- 40 mg Nolva per day
Weeks 1-4 100mg Clomiphene per day
Weeks 1-5 1mg Anastrozole per day
Week 1- 4,500 iu HCG
Week 2- 3,000 iu HCG
Week 3- 1,500 iu HCG
 
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You really need to stop listening to this friend of yours...he clearly has very poor knowledge when it comes to the use of AAS. And this isn't just a guy who had poor knowledge about city and gave you shitty driving directions...while inconvenient, it will not personally harm you or others. But, this piss poor advice he's been giving you...has and will harm you again should you choose to listen to him. Oral only cycles? Severely underdosed primo and Anavar (var) advice? No post cycle therapy (pct) for the primo/ Anavar (var) ? I could go on and on and on. People like your friend piss me off so bad. Please do yourself a huge favor and READ and STUDY the stickies that are in this forum. Det. Oak has a fantastic write up on post cycle therapy (pct) and the use of hcg...porkchop posted 2 new stickies. Just read ALL of the stickies in this forum and tell your friend to shut his mouth before he harms anyone else.

My rant has now concluded.
 
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