Primo & Test E as first cycle.

dodge_george

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Hi guys new to this forum.
Names George - live in Australia.

Been researching for months & months AAS.
I'd like to continue putting on lean quality muscle but also lower my BF% which is where my training sessions now have shifted from 20-25set sessions to 25-30set sessions and morning cardio and more and longer drop sets so that now i can look at adressing my BF%.
My only problem in the past has been, that most weeks im strict on my diet and it works well, however if i miss a meal or two my bodies hardness will fluxuate like a yoyo and it's extremely frustrating for something as little as one or two meals (work in sales so not always easy to get food in the system) so i guess you could say im looking for the ability to retain muscle hardness during low calorie intake. However being new to steroids i don't wish to go into wintrole or tren or prop many few reasons including these painful painful jabs i read of & increased chances of sides & not wanting to be jabbing everyday for a first time doing AAS

I've been training 5years now.
I'm 21yrs old
5'6 in height.
18months ago i was 65kgs 8-9% BF - 12month later after a full proper bulking period i hit 78kgs.
And for now im sitting on around 75kgs. now i'd be 15+ %BF


I'd like your thoughts & advise on what i have roughly in place in regard to my first steroid cycle ever.

Test E - wk 1-14 = 250mgs/ml E5D
Primobolan - wk 1-14 = 100mgs/ml E5D
Hcg ius - wk 2-15 = 300 ius E3D - ??
Aromasin - wk 1-18 = 12.5-25mg ED ??
post cycle therapy (pct) -nolva - wk 16-21 - 40/40/30/20/10


Or doing a shorter post cycle therapy (pct) but combining clomid and nolva - However im not sure what dosages would look like then for both if you combined the two. which is another thing people say will work better than just using one.


- Im set on doing HCG during my cycle however what would dosages look like during those 10days after last injection (prior to post cycle therapy (pct)) - is increase required or just continue to do 300 ius E3D ?

- Some people say 12.5mg aromasin is good enough other say 25mgs is required.
Then other say do arimidex however thats almost 3x more expensive.

Not looking to for negative comments on my age.
As well i know a lot of people say just do Test E by itself for a first time, but i figure it's not high dosages im planning to do, so why not see what i can get out of a intermediate AAS plan.
For now im still deciding. But i figure maybe it's time i show someone my thoughts and get some feedback.
Thanks -
 
Even though you mentioned it, I'm gonna be the first to repeat it. First cycle should be a test only cycle to see how you respond. I would pin the test e twice per week. Run aromasin 12.5mg eod weeks 1-however long you run the test. Start pct two weeks after last pin, clomid at 50/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20.
 
Even though you mentioned it, I'm gonna be the first to repeat it. First cycle should be a test only cycle to see how you respond. I would pin the test e twice per week. Run aromasin 12.5mg eod weeks 1-however long you run the test. Start post cycle therapy (pct) two weeks after last pin, clomid at 50/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20.


- So you believe post cycle therapy (pct) should be a 4week process with both at these dosages togeather?

- I've read somewhere that aromasin has a half life of on 24hrs as opposed to arimidex 60-72hrs. So you believe still do a 12.5mg eod as opposed to ED? any reason for that?

- and lastly any comments on hcg between my last pin and post cycle therapy (pct).

thanks for feedback
 
Yes I would run post cycle therapy (pct) with both products for four weeks. And on the aromasin I think I actually did run mine daily last time, sorry for conveying wrong info. And I haven't had any experience with hcg so I can't help you there.
 
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