I am planning on doing a 300-400 mg cycle of Primo Depot for 12 weeks. My goal is to gain 8-12 pounds of dense muscle, more discretely than the rapid weight gain thru obvious roid use. I've only done test and deca before. I'd do test again except I don't like the androgens' effect on my skin, and Deca was awsome except for giving me temporary high blood pressure and making my heart hurt...so I stopped. I'm 5'8, weigh 165 lbs, and in my early 20's. Been lifting for years, on and off. For post cycle therapy (pct) I'll take tribex or clomid. I do not have MPB in my family, but I have heard of people having it triggered by some steroids even though they don't have MPB in thier genetics. Is this just a rumor, or is there some truth to it? My hair should be fine on Primo only, right? Anything else I should be concerned of with Primo? Any other comments on the cycle itself are welcome. Thanks.
Primobolan Cycle
- Thread starter paintrain
- Start date
You should be able to gain 10 lbs from that primo cycle that is if the gear is real, primo is often faked so keep your eyes open i say with good diet and training program its acheivable, as far as hairloss is concerned i think you will be fine, if you wanna be even more safe then do 300mgs, Winstrol (winny) is the worst for hairloss, i say go for it. Keep the calories real high. 
Last edited:
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
First off....."lifting for years, on and off".....tells me you need to get serious and consistent before doing a cycle. You could easily achieve your goal with an improved diet and training schedule.
Now Primo is best run in higher doses, say 600-800mg/week, 300-400 isn't going to get you much in the way of results. Good luck though !!
Now Primo is best run in higher doses, say 600-800mg/week, 300-400 isn't going to get you much in the way of results. Good luck though !!
China_Wall
New member
I agree with Mr. Stone Cold on this one. Get consistant with your training and diet first, then think about a good cycle.
Primo on it's own for gains is a terrible cycle whether you're a beginner or a vet. Running 300-400mg's of Primo per wk will only result in a loss of $.
Primo on it's own for gains is a terrible cycle whether you're a beginner or a vet. Running 300-400mg's of Primo per wk will only result in a loss of $.
All good words wisdom, much appreciated. Mentzer has told me what I want to hear, but Stone Cold you have a good point as well...except I am serious. Intensity or experience are not issues for me. Actually I am always lifting, but every now and then I slack on on my regimen usually cause other priorities get in the way...So I'm not always consistent. When I am consistent, which I need to be (Starting today), I reach about 170 of solid muscle in like 2 months and gains get real slow after that. If i'm on a cycle, I will be in my regimen without question (i.e. 6-8 meals a day, 8hrs sleep, and Lifting nearly every day). However, how long would you say I should be consistent before I start the Primo?
China Wall--if I gain 10lbs safely with few side effects, then Primo, if not fake, is not a waste of $$ to me. My question is whether you think that 10lbs or more is attainable (given a proper commitment) on 300-400 mg's. What do you think?
Additionally, what a lot of people call light doses I have made moderate gains off of in the past. I think I react strongly to AS. For instance, I only took 300 mg of deca for three weeks, putting on ten pounds before I had to stop. Then I stuck with sustanon (175mg per week while tapering off the deca) for another 5 weeks and weight stayed the same. Months later, size and strength are only little better than before. But damn, that deca was and made me feel real strong, only it gave me real high bp as well.
China Wall--if I gain 10lbs safely with few side effects, then Primo, if not fake, is not a waste of $$ to me. My question is whether you think that 10lbs or more is attainable (given a proper commitment) on 300-400 mg's. What do you think?
Additionally, what a lot of people call light doses I have made moderate gains off of in the past. I think I react strongly to AS. For instance, I only took 300 mg of deca for three weeks, putting on ten pounds before I had to stop. Then I stuck with sustanon (175mg per week while tapering off the deca) for another 5 weeks and weight stayed the same. Months later, size and strength are only little better than before. But damn, that deca was and made me feel real strong, only it gave me real high bp as well.
GymLift
New member
These aren't very good stats for somebody that already has a couple of cycles under their belt. Even if you hadn't ever done a cycle, I would recommend against your doing one at that size and at this time.paintrain said:
Maybe you only weigh 165 lbs because you have low bf%, I don't know, but that only tells me that you need to eat more to grow.
I answered your question, its common sense that you should reach your genetic max, i am sure you have been told to stay natural yet you did 2 cycles so basically some people will do what they wanna do, not like you gonna listen to anyone so i answered your question, bottomline a person has to be very stupid to jump into steroids after working out for only a couple of months or someone who has shitty stats.
China_Wall
New member
10lbs of LBM in 12 weeks on Primo alone at 300-400mg's? I would say near impossible.
An experienced bro with many cycles under the belt is hard pressed to gain 10 lbs of LBM in 12 wks on numerous compounds.
On a higher dose of Primo alone, say 700-800mg's per wk, 5 lbs of LBM would be a good result.
An experienced bro with many cycles under the belt is hard pressed to gain 10 lbs of LBM in 12 wks on numerous compounds.
On a higher dose of Primo alone, say 700-800mg's per wk, 5 lbs of LBM would be a good result.
Maybe the admin should add to newbee read section that dont even think about using steroids if you havent reached your max yet and you definately shouldnt use steroids if not serious about bodybuilding. There are so many people that come here just to hear that they havent reached their max and they should put more effort in diet and training.
Maybe for you, dont say that about everyone, just because you didnt make any gains doesnt necessarily mean that others wont, specially someone who hasnt used the compound before. Tell you what buy me the gear and let me train him and if he does what i tell him and eats what i tell him to then he he should gain 10 pounds and if he doesnt then he isnt bodybuilding material.China_Wall said:
Lastly if you think that a person will gain only 5lb from 12 weeks of primo then you should really think this whole thing over, i could gain 5 lbs without gear in 12 weeks maybe a little more given that a little bit of fat will come along but i assure you it will be very little thats just me some types of food really hit me hard and makes me bulk up and i know that its not the same for everyone.
Last edited:
JohnnyB
Community Veteran
Bro you need to re-read what you said here, if you are not consistant without steroids, you'll be inconsistant when on steroids. They're not magic or a drug that makes you want to lift and eat right. I agree with SC, you need to get you training in order, if you're going to juice, training and diet is your priority. You make a way to fit it in, no matter what.paintrain said:
JohnnyB
thats a very good point, everyone i know thats not totally dedicated before the go on a cycle just gets worse as they go. Its almost like they think the gear is going to pick up the slack for them, yeah they may see some results but nothing like they could if everything was in order.
China_Wall
New member
hey chief, anyone can gain body weight. I'm talking about lean body mass, muscle only. Gaining 5 lbs of muscle in 12 weeks is not bad on such a mild compound, gaining 10+ is near impossible.MENTZER said:
So my freind you are telling me that it is not possible to gain 5 good lbs in 12 weeks which btw is 3 months, if thats what you are telling me then my freind please follow the advice that stonecold and johnnyb is giving to the above guy, if you cant gain 5 good pounds in 3 months then you suck i am sorry but that is the truth and the truth hurts.China_Wall said:
Although i've admitted being inconsistent, that doesn't mean i'm inexperienced with diet and training. You're talking to a lifelong athlete. When you guys think inconsistent, you think of a pud who can't motivate themselves. As a formerly successful, still self-motivated, natural, D1 athlete, when I'm inconsistent, i'm still in better shape than 99% of guys out there, and get back into shape very quickly. My view of "inconsistent" is short in duration and relative to the training that I've already been thru. I WAS inexperienced with juice when I started (can't really say I ever did a full cycle), and thats why I'm only 165 (6-8% bf). I am often asked by others for training lessons and advice, and why I don't do a show. Not trying to brag, just want to give the correct impression, which is I DO know about diet and training, and I am serious. As for the Primobolan, THAT is what I am inexperienced with, and am trying eductate myslef about.
Want to gain ~12 lbs LBM for personal reasons. Looking for something mild that will last with few sides, and supposedly Primo does that, if done for 10-12 weeks. Others disagree. Not sure what to believe.
I may or may not do this cycle, and if I do, it will be after a couple months of hardcore training. I like to hear your opinions, but unfortunately, that's all they are. Some of you talk from experience and others of you may be repeating what you have already "heard." And what works for one individual may have somewhat different results on others. What is good about these boards is when guys accurately share their own experiences. Then a general consensus about certain topics can be reached with more certainty.
Mentzer, Stone Cold, China Wall, and all others, where do you get your opinions regarding Primo from? If personal experience, would you be willing to share?
Want to gain ~12 lbs LBM for personal reasons. Looking for something mild that will last with few sides, and supposedly Primo does that, if done for 10-12 weeks. Others disagree. Not sure what to believe.
I may or may not do this cycle, and if I do, it will be after a couple months of hardcore training. I like to hear your opinions, but unfortunately, that's all they are. Some of you talk from experience and others of you may be repeating what you have already "heard." And what works for one individual may have somewhat different results on others. What is good about these boards is when guys accurately share their own experiences. Then a general consensus about certain topics can be reached with more certainty.
Mentzer, Stone Cold, China Wall, and all others, where do you get your opinions regarding Primo from? If personal experience, would you be willing to share?
Dude what are you asking, we have answered all of your questions, looks like you already know everything then are why you asking us, first i tell you that it is possible to gain weight on primo, no one is gonna garantee you anything for the last time for christ sakes it depends, ok answer this for me, i wanna open a carwash the location is not bad and i have worked at a carwash place and i wanna make 50,000$ a year i have 2 employees one sucks and the other one is great and kicks ass do i need to hire a third one am i going to make enough money to buy a bmw i just want a 3 series do you think its possible. please let me know. I have known guys who lost most of their weight even from a test cycle, where am i saying all this from hmmm experience, you know what its time you find out for yourself, each one of us gave you good advice and you will get a different advice from everyone because its different for everyone, now you have to decide what you wanna do, we cant help you with that. My advice to you to train and be more consistent with your workouts and since you disagree so much then please find out for your self.paintrain said:
You are not ready for steroids, you are so concerned about sides and you have done two cycles already and you are concerned about loosing hair on 300 mg of primo only, please do more research trust me when you are ready for steroids you wouldnt ask questions like oh am i going to loose hair on 300 mgs of primo only and will it work, stick around here on this board and keep reading.good luck.
Last edited:
You've been helpful. But "dude," where did you get "since you disagree so much" from?--(rhetorical..please don't respond). I obviously am listening to various people, not disagreeing with them. You and others, however, obviously do disagree with eachother, which makes for a good discussion. I have no basis from which to agree or disagree. Just here to discuss steroids, that's all.
Look sometimes in life we have to do what feels right, and people throw things at you and you judge things by how you feel. I was debating on some new rims and i have always wanted new rims for my car i asked my freinds if i should spent 1200 on my car and some said its a waste of money and some said it you really want it then get it, well i wanted it and i got them, guess what there hasnt been a single day where i regret or feel bad about it, it makes me very happy when i see my car now , i did the right thing for me it was worth it someone else might have regretted it, sometimes we gotta stop thinking and do things and find out for ourselves.
Last edited:
G
getfitdoc
Guest
pt
we seem to be in a similar situation,
im 6ft 180 7%bf..27yrs.. im kinda of strong.. 5 sets of 10 with 225 for bench as an example... played college sports (hoops)
i keep wondering if there is a steroid that will help me just gain 10-15 lbs of lbm... (with no sides, no bloat..) so ppl wont know i used..
after being on this site for over a year i've come to this conclusion:
that 10-15 lbs of muscle for a young guy like me should come from staying consistent with my training and diet...
not gear...
but shit, im still learning so i can't really advise you, just seemed like we are in a similar situation..
what sport did you play?
we seem to be in a similar situation,
im 6ft 180 7%bf..27yrs.. im kinda of strong.. 5 sets of 10 with 225 for bench as an example... played college sports (hoops)
i keep wondering if there is a steroid that will help me just gain 10-15 lbs of lbm... (with no sides, no bloat..) so ppl wont know i used..
after being on this site for over a year i've come to this conclusion:
that 10-15 lbs of muscle for a young guy like me should come from staying consistent with my training and diet...
not gear...
but shit, im still learning so i can't really advise you, just seemed like we are in a similar situation..
what sport did you play?
Similar threads
