Question about post cycle therapy (pct) test/tren/winni

[sr20detb13]

Question about pct test/tren/winni

this is my first real cycle, real meaning longer than 4 weeks. im currently running 12weeks test E, 10 weeks tren E, 4 weeks winni, i also did 2 weeks of anadrol at 50mg a day weeks 4-5.

500mg test, 400 tren, 50mg winni.

im 6'3 210 about 12%bf

im currently on week 7, no gyno but my nipples have been sore for about 2 weeks.. i have arimidex on hand. but i want to wait to see if i form any lumps.

i have tamox/nolva 20mg/ml, letro/arimi 2.5mg/ml, and clomid 35mg/ml on hand for pct.

just looking for alittle info... it always goes back and forth, should i run just nolva, or clomi/nolva together?

 

[Cobra Strike]

bro if your nipps are sore that is a sign of gyno...get on your ai...and since you are running all these compounds at once (not to be harsh but def honest) like a dummy now you get to go ahead and get yourself some prami or caber cause you dont know what type of gyno your getting. Dont use the letro unless you have a lump that wont go away.

You def should have researched before you did this...shitty cycle bro

 

[sr20detb13]

thanks.. my nipples are not really sore, id say sensitive, and are hard more often then not.. most people i know get that everytime.. and usually non turn to actual lumps. one of my friends just finished the exact cycle im doing and got a small lump, took arimidex and it went away in about a week. shitty cycle? i mean the anadrol was not planned and maybe i shouldnt have ran it. why is my cycle shitty? i have all my post cycle therapy (pct) ready.

 

[foamy27]

THats way too much for a first cycle. Four compounds? You should have ran test only to see how you reacted to it.

 

[DADAWG]

my sig says it all

 

[Cobra Strike]

thanks.. my nipples are not really sore, id say sensitive, and are hard more often then not.. most people i know get that everytime.. and usually non turn to actual lumps. one of my friends just finished the exact cycle im doing and got a small lump, took arimidex and it went away in about a week. shitty cycle? i mean the anadrol was not planned and maybe i shouldnt have ran it. why is my cycle shitty? i have all my post cycle therapy (pct) ready.

your first cycle should have been test only....tren is not even indicated for a guy on his 3rd cycle. You ran anadrol for 2 weeks which is retarded and you have winni in there which is also retarded. I really hope your getting your blood work and lipid profile done because Im sure its gonna be messed up with this cycle.

IMO clomid and nolva together or just clomid...never just nolva

when this cycle ends i would def do your research on aas because its obvious you dont know what your doing.

and just cause your friend didnt get a lump doesnt mean you wont

 

[sr20detb13]

i am going in tom to get my labs done, i didnt order a lipid test... i shouldnt say its my first real cycle. ive ran cyp for 5 weeks, no sides. ive ran dbol 4 weeks by itself. and ive ran sus for 4 weeks. non with any health related side effects. i did lose my hair though after dbol. the reason i say first "real" cycle is because all my other cycles i felt like i was just beginning to react to the supplements and i would be done. i am actually debating on stopping the cycle because my blood pressure is going up to much. i naturally am alil high 140/80.. since i started the winni (5 days my blood pressure is sky rocketing) today i read 160,170/80. i also have one kidney soo this is obviously something i cant take lightly... when i get my panel back, if my creatanine or urea levels are too high im going to stop the cycle and begin post cycle therapy (pct). look ive done tons of reading on these forums, just because its my first post doesnt mean its my first time here. i dont post much because all you guys do on this forum is call everyone "idiots and newbies" if they havnt ran a thousand cycles and dont weigh 300lbs... i admit the anadrol was being stupid.. everything else about my cycle was well planned out, diet has been in complete check.. i dont understand why my cycle is stupid when ive watched and read about this exact stack a thousand times.. i just wanted alil insight on what my personal pct should look like and if i should start treating for the nipple tenderness now or wait till its a full on lump... thanks though.

 

[Cobra Strike]

i am going in tom to get my labs done, i didnt order a lipid test... i shouldnt say its my first real cycle. ive ran cyp for 5 weeks, no sides. ive ran dbol 4 weeks by itself. and ive ran sus for 4 weeks. non with any health related side effects. i did lose my hair though after dbol. the reason i say first "real" cycle is because all my other cycles i felt like i was just beginning to react to the supplements and i would be done. i am actually debating on stopping the cycle because my blood pressure is going up to much. i naturally am alil high 140/80.. since i started the winni (5 days my blood pressure is sky rocketing) today i read 160,170/80. i also have one kidney soo this is obviously something i cant take lightly... when i get my panel back, if my creatanine or urea levels are too high im going to stop the cycle and begin post cycle therapy (pct). look ive done tons of reading on these forums, just because its my first post doesnt mean its my first time here. i dont post much because all you guys do on this forum is call everyone "idiots and newbies" if they havnt ran a thousand cycles and dont weigh 300lbs... i admit the anadrol was being stupid.. everything else about my cycle was well planned out, diet has been in complete check.. i dont understand why my cycle is stupid when ive watched and read about this exact stack a thousand times.. i just wanted alil insight on what my personal pct should look like and if i should start treating for the nipple tenderness now or wait till its a full on lump... thanks though.

well you didnt read a thousand threads on your cycle because I know first hand everyone that knows Winstrol (winny) says no to winni...and if you do have bp issues than you should know better to run winni...

also all your previous cycles were just starting to kick in so you wouldnt notice sides that fast and you should know that as well if you did your research...so this cycle should be test only...then you assess your bp issues on a less complex level

im not calling you stupid or even a newb...but its blatently obvious that you did not do enough research

 

[UserAt204]

My man. You have one kidney and high BP. You need to rethink. I'm not bashing you but tren will produce some of the worst sides. It will increase your BP. You are just looking for problems. Why did you do 4 week cycles? Long esters like cyp and Sustanon (sust) take up to 4 to 6 weeks for those esters to build in your system and start to produce good gains. Just cause your friends say it's a good cycle, it's not. Test and tren is a great cycle but you need to run just test 10 to 12 weeks to see how you respond and get pct and everything on point. Then you can start adding. Well, it's the smartest way to do it.

Drol and tren aren't so great in the same cycle and two weeks of drol won't do anything for you. The reason people flame new guys is to get the point across. I've done cycles for 8 years and still don't use 4 compounds in a cycle. Usually just test or I'll add either tren or deca. Winstrol (winny) sucks and is really pointless when using tren because tren will do everything winnycan except better.

With your BP that high and only having one kidney I would be dropping the cycle all together. If not I would run just test. I've been at it alot of years and test only is still my main cycle. I hope you take this info and everyone elses for what it's worth but it's your body. Stick around and I'm sure you will learn a lot.

 

[sr20detb13]

thanks for taking to time to explain this shit. all the short cycles were very retarded i know.. my thought process is i wanted something that would motivate me and give me a tiny boost, more of like a placebo i guess. i was scared of the sides. my kidney issue is from birth my one kidney functions at over a 100% (its bigger and stronger than one normal kidney because its been doing all the work my whole life) still not smart to tax it like this... i really never knew winni was thought of like that.. sad part is i really feel the Winstrol (winny) working. my strength feels like it increasing 25% a week. i took a chance on this cycle and plan on keeping a close eye on sides. but from here on out i believe i will only run test cycles.

 

[sr20detb13]

again thanks for the help.. there are alot of things i havnt researched enough... it almost seems like if you read enough youll never commit to a cycle.. im going to run this cycle out since i currently have 4 weeks left. then start post cycle therapy (pct). hope i can get everything back inline. i am currently trying to get my hands on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so i can start that asap... but if not do you think nolva, clomid will work, or should i add something more to the pct?
thanks