question about TREN.

[ST3V3-0]

hey guys im new to this forum.. last one was pretty lame. anyways.. bout to start a cycle and cycle log here i guess and i had a question regarding my cycle here's my stats cycle etc...
age 23
height 5'11
weight 178
bf% low around 9
lifting seriously for about 1 1/2 yrs.

now

this will be my second real cycle as follows

1-12 test e. 750 mgs EW
1-9 TREN ACE. 100 mgs. EOD
pct= nolva / clomid 4 weeks 40/20 100/50

my question is i was looking to put on 25 lbs. im overseas right now and this would b the best time as i can eat alot and whatever i need to so consider my diet to b high cals around 5k a day and protein at a minimum of 350 grams a day...my question is do you think the 25lbs. range is out of the question? this is my first time using tren but my buddys swear its the best. i was hoping the test would blow me up and the tren would keep me cut as i already am ripped in my opinion... any input would b appreciated. thanks

 

[LOKI1978]

Everyone reacts differently so there are no guarantees. That said, I would definitely think one could put on 25lb DURING this cycle. I think you would likely lose some of that after cycle. At 5'11 and 178 lb you should be able to carry a little more weight naturally unless you are very small boned.

For more advise, you should post your cycle history. Generally, it's ill-advised to start running cycles in your early 20s.

Why are you running such a high dose of test? If you haven't done more than a couple of cycles and only weigh 178 then 500 mg pw of test-e is enough. Your tren dose looks about right though I'm not sure I would run tren-a for 9 weeks though others do.

Good luck.

 

[doitright24]

you are too young, you are too small, and at that weight and you have already done a cycle, your diet must be trash.

 

[UserAt204]

Not trying to bash you, but at your size you do not need that much gear. If you were to use 500mg of test and really took in 5000 cals you will put on considerable weight. I also advise waiting til around 25.

There is some confusion here. Test and tren can be used as bulking compounds or cutting. Your diet dictates what type of gains you make. 25lbs is huge. If you were able to gain 25, I can bet you won't keep it. Here's why your weight is mentioned, in order to gain weight even on cycle, you need to ear enough to gain then when you come off you need to eat enough to maintain that new weight. That can be hard to
Do if you don't know how to eat to make yourself grow.

Again I'm not bashing you but I think you need to hold off on the tren.
Your doses are much higher than needed. I garantee you don't need that much test or tren. If you can't gain on 500mg then you are not eating and training the right way.

Do you have anything for estro/prolactin control?? At those doses you may need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and dopamine agonist.

Rethink this and slow down.

 

[DADAWG]

hey guys im new to this forum.. last one was pretty lame. anyways.. bout to start a cycle and cycle log here i guess and i had a question regarding my cycle here's my stats cycle etc...
age 23
height 5'11
weight 178
bf% low around 9
lifting seriously for about 1 1/2 yrs.

now

this will be my second real cycle as follows

1-12 test e. 750 mgs EW
1-9 TREN ACE. 100 mgs. EOD
pct= nolva / clomid 4 weeks 40/20 100/50

my question is i was looking to put on 25 lbs. im overseas right now and this would b the best time as i can eat alot and whatever i need to so consider my diet to b high cals around 5k a day and protein at a minimum of 350 grams a day...my question is do you think the 25lbs. range is out of the question? this is my first time using tren but my buddys swear its the best. i was hoping the test would blow me up and the tren would keep me cut as i already am ripped in my opinion... any input would b appreciated. thanks

welcome to OLOGY


thats to much gear for a guy your size , if you were eating enough you would be bigger allready.

 

[ST3V3-0]

ya i understand yalls comments, i got very sick about 2 months ago and lost a good 12 lbs. but i understand. and guys i used to be a skinny guy. i weighed 135 before i got serious,, nut when i joined the army i got right...

 

[llD3MONll]

yea man just keep at it naturally for a couple more years and really get the benifits of growing new muscle and high natty test.

plus at 180lbs you need to be in the diet section of this forum not the aas part lol

 

[Repo]

A lot of good advise for you here - user has it spot-on!

At least your here doing your home work so - if your going to do - what you want to do - do it right.

Welcome to Ology ... "your in good company."

 

[ST3V3-0]

thanks guys for the feedback... i completely understand what yall r saying trust me...i do. BUT im getting married on my midtour leave and me and my fiance have both been busting our ass in the gym and weretaking a cruise and everything it wilbe mid summer. so i will take the advice on the dosage and i will b smart about it, but i think i will run this cycle. thank you for the input fellas, and if you guys i like i will start a log next week when i start??