Question on Steroid testing ?
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I think he was asking about Steroid tests, like athletic organizations would do. All I know is the procedure the NCAA takes when testing, but I know nothing about how the test works or what exactly they can detect... So any information on these sort of tests is much appreciated from me as well, as I'll have to fucking around with these things for the next 4 years
the NCAA has even banned PCT chems and all that... Is it even possible for them to test for Nolva etc?
the NCAA has even banned PCT chems and all that... Is it even possible for them to test for Nolva etc?
My understanding is testing for steroids they(the testers)would have to be looking for specific hormone levels and baned substances.With that said Im sure there is a lot of signs of AAS use other than the actual elevated levels of hormones.
maybe chip w. has som insight on this?
maybe chip w. has som insight on this?
DREW, HOPE THIS HELPS.....
ScienceDaily (June 19, 2008) — A new mass spectrometry test can help sports anti-drug doping officials to detect whether an athlete has used drugs that boost naturally occurring steroid levels. The test is more sensitive compared to previous alternatives, more capable of revealing specific suspicious chemical in the body, faster to perform, and could be run on standard drug-screening laboratory equipment.One of the roles of the masculinising hormone testosterone is to increase muscle size and strength. Taking extra testosterone, or taking a chemical that the body can use to create extra testosterone, could therefore enhance an athlete's performance. For this reason taking it is banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
The exact level of testosterone varies considerably between different people, so simply measuring total testosterone in an athlete's urine can not show whether he or she has deliberately taken extra. There is, however, a second chemical in the body, epitestosterone, which is normally present in approximately equal proportions to testosterone. Comparing the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone can then indicate whether testosterone or a precursor has been taken.
The problem is that it is not always easy to measure these two substances, particularly as they are only present in urine at very low concentrations.
A team of scientists the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory at the University of Utah have developed a test that makes use of liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry. This method has incredibly high sensitivity (down to 1 ng/ml) and increases the power with which officials can search for both testosterone and epitestosterone within a sample.
"Our system means that we can determine the testosterone/epitestosterone ratio in a sample with greater confidence, and therefore be in a better position to spot doping violations without falsely accusing innocent athletes," says lead investigator Dr Jonathan Danaceau.
"Not only is the test more sensitive, it is also faster to perform," says colleague Scott Morrison.
Journal Reference:
Jonathan P. Danaceau, M. Scott Morrison, Matthew H. Slawson. Quantitative confirmation of testosterone and epitestosterone in human urine by LC/Q-ToF mass spectrometry for doping control (p n/a). Journal of Mass Spectrometry, Jun 19 2008 DOI: 10.1002/jms.1443
ScienceDaily (June 19, 2008) — A new mass spectrometry test can help sports anti-drug doping officials to detect whether an athlete has used drugs that boost naturally occurring steroid levels. The test is more sensitive compared to previous alternatives, more capable of revealing specific suspicious chemical in the body, faster to perform, and could be run on standard drug-screening laboratory equipment.One of the roles of the masculinising hormone testosterone is to increase muscle size and strength. Taking extra testosterone, or taking a chemical that the body can use to create extra testosterone, could therefore enhance an athlete's performance. For this reason taking it is banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
The exact level of testosterone varies considerably between different people, so simply measuring total testosterone in an athlete's urine can not show whether he or she has deliberately taken extra. There is, however, a second chemical in the body, epitestosterone, which is normally present in approximately equal proportions to testosterone. Comparing the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone can then indicate whether testosterone or a precursor has been taken.
The problem is that it is not always easy to measure these two substances, particularly as they are only present in urine at very low concentrations.
A team of scientists the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory at the University of Utah have developed a test that makes use of liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry. This method has incredibly high sensitivity (down to 1 ng/ml) and increases the power with which officials can search for both testosterone and epitestosterone within a sample.
"Our system means that we can determine the testosterone/epitestosterone ratio in a sample with greater confidence, and therefore be in a better position to spot doping violations without falsely accusing innocent athletes," says lead investigator Dr Jonathan Danaceau.
"Not only is the test more sensitive, it is also faster to perform," says colleague Scott Morrison.
Journal Reference:
Jonathan P. Danaceau, M. Scott Morrison, Matthew H. Slawson. Quantitative confirmation of testosterone and epitestosterone in human urine by LC/Q-ToF mass spectrometry for doping control (p n/a). Journal of Mass Spectrometry, Jun 19 2008 DOI: 10.1002/jms.1443
I had to go through an NCAA drug test for steroids once. We did have to piss in a cup and then they mailed it off to get tested in a lab. One guy on our team failed and (like an idiot) he told people about it. He didn't say what he was using. However, he did say that the NCAA couldn't tell what substance it was that triggered the positive test. He said that it just showed up as a positive result because he triggered one of the banned substances, but they (NCAA) couldn't tell specifically. I'm not sure how much I trust this guy's opinion though. Good guy, but definitely weird.
Yeah, I've seen that on their list of banned substances. I kept trying to find out detection times for post cycle therapy (pct) chems like nolva and clomid, but I've really found nothing concrete.
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On an interesting side note-- the Olympic athletes tested are forced to submit their urine (&/or blood) and these are stored for 4 or 5 years after the original test. They realizethey can't always detect all performance enhancing drugs at the moment but scientific advances could make it possible down the road. Interestingly enough several weren't caught initially but were years later. Crazy stuff...
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