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[thejpman]

hi guys girls, Iwould like to have your opinion on my cycle I'am gonna do it soon but I wanna do it the right way. I think I need some advices on the post cycle therapy (pct) espacially with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), don't know how to use it how much ? how many times ect..

I have to add that I may probabely change the enanth with sust
Now I'am waiting your advices

 

[thejpman]

here is the cycle
week 1 250 mg etha + 200 mg deca + 20 mg nolva ED
week 2 250 mg etha + 200 mg deca + 1 hemogenin ED + 20mg nolva ED + liv 52 or legalon
week 3 500 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 1 hemogenin ED + 20mg nolva ED + liv 52 or legalon
week 4 500 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 1 hemogenin ED + 20mg nolva ED + liv 52 or legalon
week 5 500 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 1 hemogenin ED + 20mg nolva ED + liv 52 or legalon
week 6 500 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 1 hemogenin ED + 20mg nolva ED + liv 52 or legalon
week 7 500 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 1 hemogenin ED + 20mg nolva ED + liv 52 or legalon
week 8 500 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 20mg nolva ED
week 9 250 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 20mg nolva ED
week 10 250 mg etha + 400 mg deca + 20mg nolva ED
week 11 liv52
week 12 liv52
week 13 + 20mg nolva ED + clomid + hcg
week 14 + 20mg nolva ED + clomid

 

[reallittleguy]

welcome to Stroidology

I don't see a cycle or am I missing something.

 

[reallittleguy]

I see it now.

I hope this isn't your first cycle. We need some stats like steriod history, weight, age. The more info you can give use the more we can help you.

 

[thejpman]

the cycle is above your post thanks for the welcoming

 

[thejpman]

I'am 28 100kg & 1m75 i've been training naturally for now 8 full years I only have used PH like Anotesten & Nortesten, andro stuff & On/ Off cycle 2 times, I never been on roid, so yes that's my fisrt real cycle, I suppose you gonna tell me that's too much because of the hemogenin, maybe your right but I think I'am gonna do 4weeks only with it. Tell me

 

[thejpman]

Come on guys don't be shy I promess nobody will be killed I really need your experience so I'am waiting

 

[Hells]

Here would be the most common practiced way to do that cycle.
Weeks 1-12 500mg Test split 250mg Mon. Thur.
Weeks 1-10 400mg Deca split

Whats hemogenin? Why are you running Nolva throughout your cycle? Why are you running a liver protectant? I wouldnt use the HCG for post cycle therapy (pct), just use basic clomid/nolva Post cycle.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Here would be the most common practiced way to do that cycle.
Weeks 1-12 500mg Test split 250mg Mon. Thur.
Weeks 1-10 400mg Deca split

That is probably the WORST first cycle there is...........

 

[StoneColdNTO]

For a first cycle....Test @ 500mg/week is all you need . No need to stack anything else with it.

For a detailed explanation of why, read this thread;

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47323

 

[reallittleguy]

Hemogenin is Androl and I belive it comes from Brazil

 

[thejpman]

For a first cycle....Test @ 500mg/week is all you need . No need to stack anything else with it.

For a detailed explanation of why, read this thread;

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47323

I'am gonna watch why & read this thread .

 

[thejpman]

Ok I understand that I have to experimente with test alone , then later test + deca then later test + deca+ hemo ect I have to go gradually for knowing how my body react said amen !

So for a simple test cycle 10 / 12 weeks with what ? enanthate, cypionate, sust & what about the dosage starting at 250 & gradually increase or stay 250 mg ? any advices

 

[{R}a{G}e]

Test Enanthate is what i used for my first cycle , i only used 250 mg a week and still put on about 20 lbs. I was alot smaller than the average person but still. I Havent tried cyp or anything else , although i have used ara-test and that is a mix of several test but with enanthate you only inject 1x maybe 2x a week depending on your split.

 

[Hells]

That is probably the WORST first cycle there is...........

OK? I didnt recommend it, all i said was here is the most common way to do that cycle. Why you jumpin on me? Am i incorrect thats not the most common way to run that cycle, I know you've warned me in the past and may not be very fond of me, but i was stating the fact.

 

[Hells]

If he's going to do that cycle, mine as well do it right.

 

[thejpman]

Test Enanthate is what i used for my first cycle , i only used 250 mg a week and still put on about 20 lbs. I was alot smaller than the average person but still. I Havent tried cyp or anything else , although i have used ara-test and that is a mix of several test but with enanthate you only inject 1x maybe 2x a week depending on your split.

I'am just gonna shooy once per week @500mg enanthate maybe I will star from 250mg for 2 weeks then 500 for 8 weeks finally 250 2 last weeks that's 12 weeks cycle Wish I'll need nothing during ( I have all the necessary on hands incase of gyno ) et voila.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I'am just gonna shooy once per week @500mg enanthate maybe I will star from 250mg for 2 weeks then 500 for 8 weeks finally 250 2 last weeks that's 12 weeks cycle Wish I'll need nothing during ( I have all the necessary on hands incase of gyno ) et voila.

First off, do NOT taper your dosages up and down like that, pick one dosage and run it all the way thru.

Although you can get by injecting once a week, because of the half life, it is better to go for twice a week in order to maintain a more stable blood hormone concentration.

 

[thejpman]

First off, do NOT taper your dosages up and down like that, pick one dosage and run it all the way thru.

Although you can get by injecting once a week, because of the half life, it is better to go for twice a week in order to maintain a more stable blood hormone concentration.

Just for information, why it's not good to taper your dosages up and down like that. So if I want to have a better result you would advise me to shoot twice a week with 250mg enanthate ? which days monday / thursday or tuesday / sathurday ? thanks for the tips stonecold

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Hemogenin is Androl and I belive it comes from Brazil

correct..... made by Aventis... 50 mgs