Recovery after a long cycle

[JustinASU]

I was on cycle for just over 9 months. I realize I was on too long so there's no need to flame here. Mostly a low to medium dose of test (500-750 mg/wk). Ended with a few dbols. I've been off for two weeks. I used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to help get my boys going before I got off. I used 300mg clomid the first dose and 150mg a day for a week. Then I used 100mg a day for a week. I am on my second day of my third week and I'm down to 50mg/day. I have also been taking 40mg of liquid nolva every day since being off. In addition to all that, I am supplementing with Protein Factory's 'Post Cycle' and 'Unleashed' (recommended on another post cycle therapy (pct) thread on this board). My weight has stayed relatively steady. In fact, I probably didn't lose more than 5 lbs so far, holding steady at 244 lbs. Strength seems to be holding steady (which is amazing considering I broke my arm right before post cycle therapy (pct) and couldn't workout for 7 wks).

Here is the one catch: I have no libido. No desire for sex. This is very taxing on my wife I'm sure. I don't feel like doing a damn thing. I've had like 2 hardons since I started my post cycle therapy (pct) regimen. I've never done a cycle this long before (this was my third) so I do not know what to expect in terms of recovery. Yes, I'm a bit smaller--that is to be expected. I have not lost much weight or strength at all though and my post cycle therapy (pct) regimen is solid (I think). My balls also seem to be struggling to reach full size again. I'm very confused.

What should I expect in post cycle therapy (pct) after a cycle like this?

 

[Button Buck]

Its gonna take a long ass time to recover from a cycle that long as you can imagine. In the meantime you could probably look into some Cialis to help things in the sack w/ your wife while you recover.

How long were your previous cycles?

Also how long did you run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for?

 

[shawn5705]

Yea Its Gonna Take You A Good While To Recover From That Cycle.. I Would Also Reccomend The Use Of Cialis

 

[OC Cartel]

how much weight and strenght did you put on w/ that cycle?

also what's your age/weight/height?

 

[Meandog]

I was just about to post the same question.A friend of mine(and i do mean a friend not me) did a long cycle similur to that he was on 4 9 months and he ran test 500-750mg per week dbol 4 weeks deca 400-600mg per week,he also threw in some anadrol near the end and even a quick blast of tren in there,

Now he came of 4 4 months and he managed to recover from all of that in about a month,His post cycle therapy (pct) was solid though,He says that hes going to run a cyle similur to this 1 again,I adviced him that this would be a bad idea(his gains were massive and he kept a lot)But hes going to do it anyway,He said that his sex drive totaly recoved

Anyway my question is how much and how long is too much?I mean is me mate risking being on hrt 4 the rest of his life cos im worried about him

 

[OC Cartel]

Anyway my question is how much and how long is too much?I mean is me mate risking being on hrt 4 the rest of his life cos im worried about him

how old is he?

as long as he fully recovers (get blood tests to know for sure)
his cycles should be ok.....

i know a handful of people that stay on for over a year at a time and are "fine"

 

[Meandog]

how old is he?

as long as he fully recovers (get blood tests to know for sure)
his cycles should be ok.....

i know a handful of people that stay on for over a year at a time and are "fine"

Hes only 24 he started cycling at 20 all his previous cycles were very sensibale,This last cycle just seemed outragous to me and i was worried about him(this last cycle made him a monster though his arms are almost 20inch and their pretty lean!!)Thanks for the reply puts mm mind at rest,It just seems a lot to me coz i only do a bit of eq now and again as i train as an mma fighter,He just wants to compete as a bbuilder,I guess the way u use drugs in that sport is different to mine,

Thanks mate

 

[Stone]

Having a low libido after such a cycle does not sound out of the ordinary. Also having the clomid in the mix will not help things at all, either. When I take clomid, even on cycle, it knock out the old sex drive considerably. I'd wait and reasses after the clomid is discontinued, and take the advice above and get some cialis to keep the wife (and yourself) satisfied in the mean time.
After a cycle that long, you have to expect a bit longer of a recover period. It only makes sense that the longer the boys were shut down, the longer they need to get back to normal. If you ever go this route again, I'd suggest using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the duration of the cycle, not just the end.

 

[JustinASU]

Sorry for the late reply. I've done 3 cycles. First was a 12 weeker with 500mg test enan/wk. Second was kinda all over the place, but it was a gram of omnadren a week kick started with dbols and a lil tren thrown in towards the end (I <3 tren). It lasted about 20 weeks. This was my third. I'm 23 yrs old. I started the cycle after a major surgery weighing in at 215 lbs at 13% bf. I ended the cycle at 258 lbs at 15% bf, so I feel that I did well. Before the cycle was over I got into a serious car wreck and came very close to breaking my neck, so I dropped working out for 8 weeks due to a broken arm. I also didn't eat much because I had post concussion syndrome due to hitting my head and I was sick every day. I still ended up at 245 lbs at 14% bf so that isn't too bad considering all things. I ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on this last one for 2 weeks prior to coming off. Balls blew up and seemed to shrink a bit after dropping the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). I'm still waiting for those bastards to get back up. It's been 2.5 weeks since the drugs cleared my system, so I need to give it time I suppose. It's just nice walking around with a 24 hr hard on for the last 9 months of my life...only to have it all get taken away.

Anyway, it seems Cialis is the concensus here. That shit is expensive, but perhaps it's worth it...

When do you all recommend I get blood tests done??

 

[Slayer]

Find some liquid cialis at one of the research companies. Its not too expensive. And damn,,,,what the hell do you expect,,,,you are just starting your third week of post cycle therapy (pct). It's going to take time.

 

[JohnnyB]

You said you used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to jump start the boys before you came off, what regiment did you use? I'm hoping you didn't use an ed schedule at over 500iu, one 1500iu dose has been shown to desensitize the testes to LH. So if you use a high dose regiment, you may have desensitized your testes to LH. LH is what you need to bring your test levels back.

That's why I don't recommend using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during PCT, you have to drugs working against each other. One drug is telling your body to start producing LH and the other is mimicking LH, which in turn sends a message that the body doesn't need LH.

I would recommend that you stay on 20mg of nolva until your sex drive come back. Next time use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the cycle, that'll keep the boys alive so that you have one less thing to recover from.

JohnnyB

 

[BigRonWannabee]

I'm very confused.

I've been off for two weeks.

Asked and answered. Takes WAY longer to recover a dormant htpa.

 

[JustinASU]

You said you used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to jump start the boys before you came off, what regiment did you use? I'm hoping you didn't use an ed schedule at over 500iu, one 1500iu dose has been shown to desensitize the testes to LH. So if you use a high dose regiment, you may have desensitized your testes to LH. LH is what you need to bring your test levels back.

That's why I don't recommend using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during PCT, you have to drugs working against each other. One drug is telling your body to start producing LH and the other is mimicking LH, which in turn sends a message that the body doesn't need LH.

I would recommend that you stay on 20mg of nolva until your sex drive come back. Next time use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the cycle, that'll keep the boys alive so that you have one less thing to recover from.

JohnnyB

I didn't use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in post cycle therapy (pct). I know you don't know me, but I'm smarter than that. I used it for the last few weeks of my cycle. The only days that were over 500IUs were day 1 and 2 (1500 and 1000 respectively) after that I was 500 ED for a week or so and then 500 EOD. I realize Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is better taken twice per week at 500IU during cycle. It's something I fucked up. If I ever cycle again--that's my plan.

 

[outlawtas]

Liquid nolva from researchology definately works! I had sex 11 times in 3 days, no prob and could went for more! (long time no see girlfriend..)