Reducing syringe waste

[Irentat]

Hey all, There is always a residual after pinning left in the top of the syringe and needle area. After researching, I found this area is about equal to 0.1ml. If using a 10ml bottle and pinning 1ml every time, this can be 1ml of waste! That is 10% of an expensive product not being used.

What can be done about this?

 

[TheMilkMan]

Hey all, There is always a residual after pinning left in the top of the syringe and needle area. After researching, I found this area is about equal to 0.1ml. If using a 10ml bottle and pinning 1ml every time, this can be 1ml of waste! That is 10% of an expensive product not being used.

What can be done about this?

You can leave a little bit of air in the syringe and shoot it like that. If you leave .1 or .2 ml's of air it will force out most of the residual.

It's just the nature of the beast though: you're going to lose some of the product.

 

[safety-man]

You can leave a little bit of air in the syringe and shoot it like that. If you leave .1 or .2 ml's of air it will force out most of the residual.

It's just the nature of the beast though: you're going to lose some of the product.

That sums it all up.

you'll notice that before you pull your gear into the syringe that there is already about a .1 of air already in there, just leave it in there.

 

[Ythrashin]

You can leave a little bit of air in the syringe and shoot it like that. If you leave .1 or .2 ml's of air it will force out most of the residual.

It's just the nature of the beast though: you're going to lose some of the product.

I've done this for some time now. It is actually a old school method...Learned it from Access a long time ago.

 

[juced_porkchop]

You can leave a little bit of air in the syringe and shoot it like that. If you leave .1 or .2 ml's of air it will force out most of the residual.

It's just the nature of the beast though: you're going to lose some of the product.

I WOULD NOT DO THIS!!
you might inject some air into yourself.
I mean then whats the point of aspirating at all then.



man just cinsider it a must of a loss, i mean really its not that much. if you need 12-3wks you whould be getting 3 X10ml viles anyway.
always have a bit extra.

 

[Ythrashin]

I WOULD NOT DO THIS!!
you might inject some air into yourself.
I mean then whats the point of aspirating at all then.



man just cinsider it a must of a loss, i mean really its not that much. if you need 12-3wks you whould be getting 3 X10ml viles anyway.
always have a bit extra.

The point of aspirating is to make sure you are not injecting into a vein....

You only use enough air to clear the syringe.

It is method used in the medical community for a very long time.

Injecting very little air IM will not hurt you BTW.

 

[superd]

Ythrashin can you explain this method to me? I have always been told to make sure there is NO air and that is why you flick the bubbles out. Which makes sense if you were injecting into a vein. If I were to do this method, you obviously make sure the air is the last to go in. Do you still push the plunger all the way letting all of the air enter your body?

 

[Ythrashin]

Here you go Juiced Porkchop...
Its called a "Airlock" method in the medical community...

WikiAnswers - What is the air lock technique
http://books.google.com/books?id=g2...resnum=10&ved=0CEIQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false


AIR-LOCK TECHNIQUE
• Less irritating to SQ tissues during needle withdrawal
• Small volume of air injected behind bolus of medication
• Air clears needle of medication
• Prevents tracking of medication thru SQ tissues

• Recommended for such medications as:
1. Interferon
2. Wyeth’s vaccines prepared w/ aluminum adjuvant
3. Vaccines such as:
a. Diptheria
b. Tetanus toxoid
c. Pertussis

Here is another link
http://www.phicare.com/docs/clinical/F150_Intramuscular_Injections.pdf

 

[Ythrashin]

Ythrashin can you explain this method to me? I have always been told to make sure there is NO air and that is why you flick the bubbles out. Which makes sense if you were injecting into a vein. If I were to do this method, you obviously make sure the air is the last to go in. Do you still push the plunger all the way letting all of the air enter your body?

Some bubbles are not an issue when injecting IM. It is a more substantial issue when injecting intravenous. Although when we gave each other IV's in the Army during CLS (combat life saving) training I've seen some air enter with no ill effects... It takes alot to cause a heart attack.

 

[safety-man]

it takes a lot of air to cause any proplems in muscle tissue, well over a cc, so a .1 of a cc is nothing.

 

[Kristofer68ss]

In for this.

 

[joshag]

it takes a lot of air to cause any proplems in muscle tissue, well over a cc, so a .1 of a cc is nothing.

Absolutely!!!

 

[Irentat]

You can leave a little bit of air in the syringe and shoot it like that. If you leave .1 or .2 ml's of air it will force out most of the residual.

I tried this method and it worked great. The only problem is you have to always have the syringe at an angle so the bubble is the last to leave...so be it.

 

[Shaptown]

You have to inject close to 100cc of air straight into a vein to even have a chance of a thromboembolism occurring.

 

[safety-man]

I tried this method and it worked great. The only problem is you have to always have the syringe at an angle so the bubble is the last to leave...so be it.

always keep the needle going in at a 90 degree angle, then adjust your body to the proper angle.

 

[Irentat]

always keep the needle going in at a 90 degree angle, then adjust your body to the proper angle.

I knew someone had this figured out...