First you are correct, a muscle tear is bad and I used the wrong terminology. I should have said micro-tear. It is through lifting and micro-tears that the body rebuilds itself and gets larger and stronger. Now to comment to the rest of your post.
Please dont try to sound scientific, you lost me at muscle tear.
First and foremost, there is a difference between bodybuilding and strength training. It is possible for muscles to grow larger without becoming much stronger; there is no disputing that. Strength training is concerned with building strength; the ability to move heavy objects with relative ease. Bodybuilding on the other hand is concerned with the development of a proportioned muscled physique. Now nobody is disputing that while doing both that you will get both larger muscles and become stronger however somebody working within a strengthening routine will not have as larger as muscles as his bodybuilding counterpart however they will be able to lift more.
Utter nonsense, unless you count Arnie, Joe Weider or any great muscle mag which i can bet you read regurlarly and take it as gospel, yes high volume is tha way to go, well thats what the glossy mags say...
We as individuals can only gain so much in way of strength and size and must decide what we want for results. Do you want to be the guy in the gym who looks the biggest or do you want to be the guy who can lift the most; and yes they are two different people. Their workouts will have different philosophies because they are different means to an end. Now before you jump on this and say that you can be the largest and the strongest I will say I won't disagree with that especially when you throw gear into the mix. Gear is a cheat; no question about it. Gear can give you size and strength and make the differences between the two lifting philosophies smaller.
Lets not bring gear to the table, im talking about full natty training. I started training about 16 of age and went with basic bodybuilding programs(high volume), when i was twenty i figured that i just wont grow or dont have the genetics and started to powerlift west side style, now all the mags i used to read didnt tell me but in two years of westside training my bench went from 215 pounds to 418(raw and natty). Did my body look different, you bet you boyfriends gstrings it did, i went from 187 pounds, 13%bf to 240pounds 13%bf. So yeah i made gains with a high volume bodybuilding program, but no where near what training for stronger did for me. Yes tricep kickbacks will give you a pump, but no where near what a closegrip benchpress will do for you. Think about it two guys(twins have the same genetics) maxout at 185 at closegrip bench, guy number one does basic high volume sets from week to week for eigth weeks, guy number two trains for improving hes one rep max for eigth weeks low volume. At the end of the 8weeks they meet up and test there one rep maxes. Guy number one(bodybuilder) maxes out at 195, guy number two maxes at 220. So who do you think has the bigger tri`s? Powerlifters have dieted down many times and smoked bodybuilders on the stage
Now I don't know who Dante DC Trudel is
Dante aka Dogcrap is the inventor of DC training. The problem with using powerlifting for bb is symmetry. This is where DC training comes in, the motion that getting stronger will keep getting you bigger and make you the biggest at the most rapid rate. Google cycle for pennies, he lets all the basics out of the training style and makes great points why a stronger muscle is a bigger muscle. GOOD READ!
but I'm well aware of Dorian and Ronnie. Both of these dudes are big and strong; no question but they are also two of the most juiced up individuals out there. Dorian and Ronnie are science projects.
What are you saying, they won the O, because they took the most roids? ROFL great point mate, thats prob why Flex Wheeler lost, he didnt have the guts to take that last gram of test...LOL
They get paid to look they way they do. They are not the norm.
So why are they so much bigger then guys like Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler who have awesome genetics but lift high volume?!?! Look at pics of Dorian when he was a kid, SHIT genetics!
What they do and say does not apply for the majority of the people out there and most certainly for those of us not geared up.
Yes i agree we shouldnt do what they do, but a stronger muscle is a bigger muscle, roiding or not, what roids will do is add speed and some volume to you training
I think Ronnie should have added to his quote; "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but aint nobody wanna lift those heavy ass weights or stick a needle in his body to make them grow and achieve more then humanly possible; because without it you can't do the shit I do or look the way I do."
Your a moron, this statements really proves how full of shit you really are
I and others don't have that luxury and can only work with what WE have. And what we have is to is deal with our genetics and those boundaries. I can lift heavy ass weights and work like a body builder to look bigger or I can lift heavier ass weights and be stronger but not as big but still get good definition and look very solid but have more functional muscles.
99% of people have shitty genetics, i have one of the shittiest, thats why it pisses me of that guys like you preaches shit training philosophies.
They are two different lifting philosophies, just as those training
Wrong again, the difference is the purpose. But training like a powerlifter with symmetry on mind ie. a powerbuilder is the best and fastest way to get strong and bigger
for endurance is another form of a lifting philosophy that will have different end results. How we train will determine our results.
This bit i agree
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