Rich Piana talks about HCG

I'm pretty sure he's on a high dose of test for TRT. I've seen first hand how atrophy sets in when your natural test production can no longer support the muscles you're carrying. He's a big fella, and I seriously doubt he can come off; a great example is Carrot Top, dude was yoked - but he was told people enjoyed him more as a skinny dude. He's now pretty average after coming off the hormones. I have wondered if he went hypogonadal on purpose to lose all that mass so quickly, or he did something else.

Either way, we can never take something for its face value when the source of information has a reason to lie/deceive - money is a powerful motivator, that's for sure.

Oh Id have to agree. Hes on Test year round at high doses, at least thats my opinion. Probably GH year round as well. Tou cant maintain, like you said, cycling AAS. A guy with that type of muscle who keeps building and never losing muscle doesnt come off.
 
That guy is a fucking idiot. I'm pretty sure I know which video these guys are watching...I found it when I first went on TRT and was learning about steroids and thought he was an idiot then. I just watched it again and I can't believe he's still alive.

It's scary that someone on that much shit doesn't even have any clue how the HTPA works. The argument about sending mixed signals is really dumb if you know what HCG does, and how it does it.

As mentioned above though: If you never come off it probably doesn't make a damn bit of difference.
 
My point, he says he comes off, but IMO he blast and cruises... Yeah the "mixed signals" thing left me a bit speechless and almost annoyed this broscience is being spread by such a big influence.

I think he may say to come off to a lot of kids that are cycling and to put them off blast/cruising.
 
It's funny cause in one of his videos he's saying he comes off to give his body a break, hard to believe when your that big .
 
Some guys consider "coming off" to mean only taking half a gram a week. I know a couple that consider 400 a cruising dose. Idk if that's what he's about or not...

That guy is dumber than a fucking stump. He is the perfect embodiment of the "meat head" stereotype.
 
I guess only he knows; it can be hard for me to believe he comes completely off while maintaining that size! He had to be one of the biggest guys walking around the Arnold last year.
 
I see some guys calling Piana dumb or whatever. He may not give good or reasonable advice as far as AAS use goes and might be a bit hazardous but he is in now way dumb or stupid. Look what he has done for himself. He is VERY successful, he is a business man who had made a GREAT living off of his ideas and his physique. A person who is dumb doesnt do those things.
 
I see some guys calling Piana dumb or whatever. He may not give good or reasonable advice as far as AAS use goes and might be a bit hazardous but he is in now way dumb or stupid. Look what he has done for himself. He is VERY successful, he is a business man who had made a GREAT living off of his ideas and his physique. A person who is dumb doesnt do those things.

I love you dude, but I have to disagree with your logic here. He is very successful but that doesn't make him smart. I love a shitload of smart people that aren't successful and a shitload of successful people that aren't smart. They are not very well correlated topics.

However, I haven't seen enough of Piana to gainsay his cognitive functionalities, he may very well be smart. I just was disagreeing with your logic :)
 
This has been proven by countless high post / professionals and to think piana knows this is ridiculous... if he even offered significant poof showing his data then maybe it would be worth a look.. words are just meaningless around here... except when they are repeated and repeated and repeated
 
I love you dude, but I have to disagree with your logic here. He is very successful but that doesn't make him smart. I love a shitload of smart people that aren't successful and a shitload of successful people that aren't smart. They are not very well correlated topics.

However, I haven't seen enough of Piana to gainsay his cognitive functionalities, he may very well be smart. I just was disagreeing with your logic :)

Heres the way I see it. This dude has made some smart very profitable real estate investments, he was a sponsored and paid athlete and the face of Mutant and never even competed. This guy wakes up every day and works for himself, he doesnt go to work for someone else, he's his on boss. He is the owner and creator of a supplement company and multiple clothing companies. Is he smart? Does he have a high IQ? Who knows but he is far from dumb or stupid, despite incorrect AAS advice.
 
I like the guy when he was with mutant but ever since he went on his own it seems like he has lost his marbles on a lot of stuff incl his personality!
It's almost like he doesn't have anybody now since he left mutant to guide him.in the right direction, now he has all the freedom of speech and doesn't have to worry about what he says or does cause he is now on his own
He dropped himself from mutant because he knows the supplement industry is all bullshit, which it is. He got tired of lying to kids, saying "buy this protein powder and youll look like me." He just got tired of being fake, its understandable.
 
What "kid" is worried about taking supplements anyway though? If anything he was lying to adults, and teenagers. If anyone in these age groups thinks they can naturally achieve a Piana physique using supplements... they are either highly misinformed, or just a complete idiot.

Lying to people that know you are lying would be incredibly demoralizing. More so, than just lying to children in my opinion. At least the children won't know any better and say something to you about it.. lol

I guess some people are fooled by this crap though. It's just really hard for me to believe that someone can honestly think, taking a specific line of Whey will make them a monster..
 
What "kid" is worried about taking supplements anyway though? If anything he was lying to adults, and teenagers. If anyone in these age groups thinks they can naturally achieve a Piana physique using supplements... they are either highly misinformed, or just a complete idiot.

Lying to people that know you are lying would be incredibly demoralizing. More so, than just lying to children in my opinion. At least the children won't know any better and say something to you about it.. lol

I guess some people are fooled by this crap though. It's just really hard for me to believe that someone can honestly think, taking a specific line of Whey will make them a monster..

It's hard to believe because we know better. I remember when I too was bodybuilding-naive and thinking I didn't need roids... Ahh those days lol.
 
That guy is a fucking idiot. I'm pretty sure I know which video these guys are watching...I found it when I first went on TRT and was learning about steroids and thought he was an idiot then. I just watched it again and I can't believe he's still alive.

It's scary that someone on that much shit doesn't even have any clue how the HTPA works. The argument about sending mixed signals is really dumb if you know what HCG does, and how it does it.

As mentioned above though: If you never come off it probably doesn't make a damn bit of difference.
youve obviously never seen his videos
 
Okay. I see. I guess I missed that.

In any case, I think the HCG advise is horrible and has probably damaged some people.
True I dont agree with everything he says. However, I dont think we should bash the one guy thats truthful about his use. Theres so many lames out there claimng natural, like Mike O'hearn for example.
 
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