Risk of damaging HPTA?

[Bullishness]

I would recommend that you do your 10 week cycle, Whatever makes YOU most comfortable at this time. You can always do an extension if it feels right for you. Or a longer one next time.

 

[cdnguy]

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[cdnguy]

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[OX]

haha alright bigshot. You clearly don't know what your talking about so just get off the thread. Go do your 50 week long cycles and destroy your body. But it will be worth it because you will get huge right? Hahahahaha your sad bro.

Your like the crazy guy in a pshyc ward that claims he is not crazy. You dont have a clue but you think you do. This was entertaining to say the least....like bullying around the school yard pussy. Appreesh

 

[cdnguy]

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[FFChiz]

you guys are hilarious. All I am saying is that I like the idea of doing a 10 week cycle because it is a good balance between gains and the potential for sides. I respect all your opinions and experiences, and I am glad that longer cycles have worked well for you.

I understand your saying that if I have already done a 10 week cycle I should just push it out to 12-14 weeks because the increase in sides are not that much more likely for just an extra couple of weeks. However to counter your point I have also read many threads where guys state they start to get sides when they push past the 10 week mark.

Its not the length of the cycle that gives most guys sides its the dose and how sensitive the individual is to aromatization. I personally ran my first cycle of test e 12 weeks at 500 mg/wk for the first 4 weeks and i changed brands and my dose went from 500 to 700 weekly. That 200 mg jump gave me ALL the sides; i.e. water retention, acne, aggression, etc. There are plenty of vets that run Test a MINIMUM of 18-20 weeks. If you check out Randy's thread in the "My Steroid Cycle forum" you can see he's running a 24 week cycle so he can balance out his myostatin levels. Then again, he has experience with AAS.

If you are so worried about sides, pick a conservative dose (400mg-600mg/wk) with Cyp and run it 10-12 weeks with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to see how you fare.

 

[cdnguy]

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[OX]

Its not the length of the cycle that gives most guys sides its the dose and how sensitive the individual is to aromatization. I personally ran my first cycle of test e 12 weeks at 500 mg/wk for the first 4 weeks and i changed brands and my dose went from 500 to 700 weekly. That 200 mg jump gave me ALL the sides; i.e. water retention, acne, aggression, etc. There are plenty of vets that run Test a MINIMUM of 18-20 weeks. If you check out Randy's thread in the "My Steroid Cycle forum" you can see he's running a 24 week cycle so he can balance out his myostatin levels. Then again, he has experience with AAS.

If you are so worried about sides, pick a conservative dose (400mg-600mg/wk) with Cyp and run it 10-12 weeks with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to see how you fare.

anytime you elevate your dosages during a cycle there is a good chance on getting more sides not only due to more of the comound but also because you just fluctuated your levels and they have to adjust to the new dosage. Just wanted to add that ff. You are correct though, higher dosages can also cause more sides. There are a lot of variables involved in that.

 

[FFChiz]

anytime you elevate your dosages during a cycle there is a good chance on getting more sides not only due to more of the comound but also because you just fluctuated your levels and they have to adjust to the new dosage. Just wanted to add that ff. You are correct though, higher dosages can also cause more sides. There are a lot of variables involved in that.

I agree. I forgot to add that diet and body fat also play a role there, too.

 

[DADAWG]

lets all stay on topic and play nice fellas.

 

[cdnguy]

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[DADAWG]

cool. So what are your thoughts on the cycle's potential of damaging hpta?

i doubt ther is much if any difference between shutdown at 10 weeks versus 15. i think proper pct / age / genetics / environment make more difference.

i know someone very close to me who had ran a LOT of cycles and never had trouble recovering after pct but had 1 major back surgery along with all the medical steroid shots with it and never recovered his hpta after that.

 

[cdnguy]

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[Phatbastard]

any other thoughts on this? Besides the know it all-super amazing-awesome-all knowing-never wrong OX?

Hey CDN

Ox is a good guy full of helpfull info!
My self and many others practice exactly what he is saying because it is very effective.

You don't have to like nor do what he says but he was honestly trying to help you.

for the record he knows his shit! Just sayin

 

[cdnguy]

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[Georgia]

That's the way the internet works. Everyone is more right than the other person...when in fact different opinions may not necessarily be wrong but be true for different people as some people react different to AAS than others...so your opinion might fit a certain group of people while his may fit another.

Anywhoo...it's testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life if your HPTA shuts down?

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

Your still not getting it. One shot of exogenous test provides a chance for permanent shut down. As far as sides go, if your that worried about them then you shouldn't cycle in the first place. Your basing all of your decisions on potential sides that you don't even know if you would get or not. Sides don't really get any worse for me until the 20 week mark and its not exponentially worse to where I need to come off. Stop being an ignoramous for a minute and listen to some real life experience. If thats to hard for you to do then I'm aftaid you have already failed in this game.

Ox is correct... You can run 100.... 200mg/week cycles and not damage your HPTA and then poof run one more cycle even at 100 a week and thats it, done and over, and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is in your future for the rest of your life!!!
Running safe cycles doesn't decrease the chance of this!!!!
However, running STUPID cycles does increase the chance. Make sense???
If you want to be in the game then you need to accept the potential consequences.
I run 20 week Test only cycles. 16 if I were to incorporate Tbol only cause it kick starts you up a bit!!!

 

[PedestrianX]

At 180 pounds 5'11 you should be more concerned with your diet than running a cycle.

 

[cdnguy]

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[Bullseye Forever]

Ox is correct... You can run 100.... 200mg/week cycles and not damage your HPTA and then poof run one more cycle even at 100 a week and thats it, done and over, and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is in your future for the rest of your life!!!
Running safe cycles doesn't decrease the chance of this!!!!
However, running STUPID cycles does increase the chance. Make sense???
If you want to be in the game then you need to accept the potential consequences.
I run 20 week Test only cycles. 16 if I were to incorporate Tbol only cause it kick starts you up a bit!!!

AGEED BROTHER!!!!

TRT for life has its advantages and disadvantages......it may sound awesome,which it is if done right and managed,but you are talking about giving yourself shots the rest of your life 1 to 2 shots/week.....thats cool on cycle,but just with a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose,not cool to me,hurts like hell lol