Running Oral Test P/Helladrol/Albuterol

[WorkingOT]

How does this look guys?

1-8/12 Oral Test Prop 200mg/day (100mg after 50% bioavailability) or 700mg/week
1-6 Helladrol 100/100/100/100/100/100 ---OR--- Sdrol 20/20/20/20 (10/10/10/10) OVERKILL on the liver though
1-8/12 Adex 1mg/week
1-8/12 Forged Liver Support
1-8 Albuterol 10-15mg/day
PCT
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Was thinking about running a cycle again since I had so much success with Helladrol the first time (put on 20lbs of lean mass), opposed to my Test E cycle that brought me up to 199lbs, then lost it due to an injury, then poor diet shortly after. I've been extremely curious about oral test since there isn't really a lot of input on it other than people saying that it sucks because its not in needle form, but willing to give it a shot for science, and stacked on Helladrol (got Sdrol on hand but would have to order Helladrol), with albuterol for cuts, which makes for a nice short $500 cycle.

Circuit powerlifter, just getting back into the swing of things.

28
6'4"
180lbs Lean

 

[WorkingOT]

Diet: I'm going to root back to 3J's diet I was running prior to Christmas that I had to stop due to financial reasons.

Training:
CHEST
Row 10min
Close Dumbell Press 30/35/40/35/30
Fry 115 @ 10R
Flat Bench Press 30/35/40/35/30
Decline Iso 45 @ 6R Each
Pushups 10

LEGS
Squat 35 @ 6R
Leg Press 25/35/45/35/25
Farmer Walk 180
Calf Raises 70 @ 10R

TRICEPS
Side Stomp 30/35/40/35/30
Close Dumbell Press
Decline Iso
Diamond Pushups @ 12R
Assisted Dips Max @ 12R

BICEPS
Curl 20/25/30/25/20
Hammer " "
Static " "
Arnold Press " "
Assisted Chin ups Max @ 12R

BACK (3 Sets)
Row 10min
Deadlift 180 @ 5R (+10lbs/week)
Reverse Fly 85 @ 5R
Reverse Touch Toe 25 @ 10R Each
Lat Raise 25 @ 5R

 

[tx045]

I tried to pm you but wouldn't let me. I had some questions

 

[WorkingOT]

Need 50 posts before you can PM

 

[tx045]

Anyway I had some questions about taking test orally or sublingually. Have you tried it and had any success? I ask because I've been having what I'm pretty sure are allergic reactions to the last 3 oils I've tried and I'm looking for alternatives. From what I gathered the success rate and popularity of it aren't that good

 

[gymrat827]

Run hella @ 100 instead of s drol.

 

[smoky370]

i agree with gymrat on the hella , good shit and not so harsh on liver if your only using forged liver support. Look into n2guard its some good shit.

 

[WorkingOT]

i agree with gymrat on the hella , good shit and not so harsh on liver if your only using forged liver support. Look into n2guard its some good shit.

I know N2Guard is some good shit, its just almost triple the price as forged, and I've had good success with forged, plus I wanted to have support for more than just 6 weeks. I'm gonna run Hella 100 straight on through like I did before for 6 weeks (started to feel sides at 150mg/day), taking albuterol 5ml 3 times per day from the start (not to hinder my gains like Anavar did to me), recapping the 2 months of test prop into 3 months of test prop @525mg/week (after bioavailability), and running forged right on through.

 

[WorkingOT]

Anyway I had some questions about taking test orally or sublingually. Have you tried it and had any success? I ask because I've been having what I'm pretty sure are allergic reactions to the last 3 oils I've tried and I'm looking for alternatives. From what I gathered the success rate and popularity of it aren't that good

Nope that's why I'm giving it a shot. You should try aquaeous solutions (water), they are virtually pain free, and you can't be allergic to water.

 

[gymrat827]

I use n2gaurd at 5 caps a day instead of 7 when money is tight.

Just an option

 

[Noob84]

I guess I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway - Test P isn't exactly over the counter?

 

[tx045]

Are you referring to test suspension or something else

 

[tx045]

I wish test p was over the counter

 

[WorkingOT]

So I already started my cycle, my test came the day before I was supposed to go to work (super fast, not even 5 days from the other side of the country) so I brought it with me. I just decided to run the 8 weeks as is and I've been taking 9mg of albuterol everyday, when my supplies are nearing the two week mark, I'm going to order another month's worth of test to finish off my cycle. I forgot to bring my adex with me, I remembered when I was on the plane. I'm going to start running Helladrol from Week 3-9 and continue to run the test from weeks 10-12 so I don't get the weight drop effect when coming off a steroid, and continue to build long after the Helladrol has ran its course. I wanted to try something new by running an oral in the middle of the cycle, since I've had little success running them from day 1 and near the end of a cycle.

I also lost my new job first day back at work and got demoted to my old one, so I decided to run a clean bulk/cut instead of a clean bulk, I've just gotten sick of bulking for the last 3 years with little success, so I'm going to set a goal to cut down to 2% fat like I was 3 years ago before I decided to start bulking. My training is going to drop down to 3 sets and have repetitive weights instead of the weight constantly changing from set to set, and so I can hit the gym more often without absolutely destroying my muscles the night before. No cardio (except on chest day), just weight training, and being an ectomorph I really don't need to overdo it with all the enchancements I got running through me.

Feel good so far on week 1, been getting erections more steadily, which is a good sign its running its course. I'm extremely sweaty at work, dehydrated, my abs hurt, and have a tiny case of the shakes, so the albuterol seems to be running well. Since day 1 and up until now, my mood has been pretty steadily happy despite losing a really good job.

I've been taking my Test Prop with foods that are high in lipids to increase bioavailability. Read a lab test on how lipids can increase the bioavailabity, at least 20g of lipids per dose-meal (breakfast/dinner) can increase serum levels by almost 4 times as much, and this is based on taking 80mg of Testosterone Undecanoate per day. So I decided to run a low carb, high protein, medium fat diet, and see where that takes me.

 

[WorkingOT]

Honestly would have to say that this is the best test I've tried so far, in terms of delivery, very fast acting, feel great all the time, tons of energy, something I barely felt running Test E @ 600mg for 12 weeks, I figure it might be Adex related since I was on it from day 1, I'm not going to now use an AI (for now) and see if things improve. I went from have slight moobies to standard definition in a week, and it looks like I've been training for a while, when I've been barely been able to get to the gym twice a week the last few months, but have been meaning to buckle down and push hard. I'm running a 3 on/1 off routine, just keeping it simple, 3 sets, weight never changes, short burst, high intensity workouts with minimal rest and minimal hydration. The albuterol has helped me cut out sugary foods easily, other foods no, but that's good, I can still eat like a champ, and don't need to munch down on a chocolate bar if I get a craving, kind of like Nicorette for sugar. I plan on doing short ab training on my off days, so my body is constantly in motion, and I'm always building. Just wrapping up the first week with minimal sides (Albuterol related), Helladrol is on the way, hopefully it comes before I start Week 4. Also been loading creatine monohydrate for the first time in my workout life, hoping this can add that extra kick to what looks like an already great feeling cycle. Might bump up to bulking when the Helladrol comes into effect, we'll see when the time comes.

 

[tx045]

Glad you're updating. good to hear positive things about the oral test

 

[gymrat827]

Man I would be knocking down tons of cals for growth.

 

[smoky370]

I agree the test and hella will keep you lean even if you eat 4 to 5k calories a day , eat big get big!

 

[WorkingOT]

1 cup 2% Milk $120 P 9g
1 Cup of Vector/Rice Krispies $150 5g
1/2 Cup Almonds $100 10g
1 Cup of Greek Yogurt (optional) $160 16g

1 Sandwich w/meat - $240 25g
1 Cup of Milk $120 9g
1 Cup Greek Yogurt (optional) $160 16g
x2

2 Cups of half chocolate/2% Milk $240 18g
Misc protein $150 25g
Vegetables $100

Workout days
(Pre-Workout)
2 Scoops of Vitargo $270 70g (carbs)
1 Serving of Amino Energy $30

(Post-Workout)
2 Cups 2% Milk w/ 50g protein $300 68g
1 Sandwich w/meat $240 25g


M1 - 370-530cal
M2/3 - 360-520 x2
M4 - 490cal
PreW - 300cal
PostW - 540cal


Workout days: 2120cal-2900cal
Protein 276g
just quit smoking, so I should be able to hide more calories away now, I get a lot more carb cravings, but I have been quite vigilant on sugar. My main reason for keeping a steady diet is when I go home for my off days, I always fall off diet because I'm not on a tight schedule, so I'm keeping it very simple so I can follow it when I get home, 3Js diet requires a lot of cooking, free time, and creativity, I'll get to that once I can get a base diet down.

 

[WorkingOT]

I fucking hate posting on my phone