running sustanon, tren ace, equipoise and winstrol.. HOW DOES IT LOOK!!!

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new cycle sustanon and tren ace!! how does it look
MY last cycle was test ace and tren ace run them both for 12 weeks!! made amazing gains..
I went from 180- 200lbs

NEW CYCLE AND STATS BELOW

age 26
height 5'11
ive been training for over 3 years consistently,im the gym 6 times a week for 1 hour


i'll be running sustanon 250, tren ace, equipoise and winstrol

Sustanon 250 E3D 2.5cc (week 1- 12) = 500ml a week
Tren ACE EOD .75cc (week 1 -12) = 3ml a week
Equipose E3D 2cc (week 1 - 12) = 4ml a week
Winstrol ED .5cc (week 6-12) = 35ml a week
A.I nolva 40mg EOD (week 1- 12)


PCT Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 5000iu and clomid (week15-18)
 
new cycle sustanon and tren ace!! how does it look
MY last cycle was test ace and tren ace run them both for 12 weeks!! made amazing gains..
I went from 180- 200lbs

NEW CYCLE AND STATS BELOW

age 26
height 5'11
ive been training for over 3 years consistently,im the gym 6 times a week for 1 hour


i'll be running sustanon 250, tren ace, equipoise and winstrol

Sustanon 250 E3D 2.5cc (week 1- 12) = 500ml a week
Tren ACE EOD .75cc (week 1 -12) = 3ml a week
Equipose E3D 2cc (week 1 - 12) = 4ml a week
Winstrol ED .5cc (week 6-12) = 35ml a week
A.I nolva 40mg EOD (week 1- 12)


PCT Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 5000iu and clomid (week15-18)
 
stomata said:
new cycle sustanon and tren ace!! how does it look
MY last cycle was test ace and tren ace run them both for 12 weeks!! made amazing gains..
I went from 180- 200lbs

NEW CYCLE AND STATS BELOW

age 26
height 5'11
ive been training for over 3 years consistently,im the gym 6 times a week for 1 hour


i'll be running sustanon 250, tren ace, equipoise and winstrol

Sustanon 250 E3D 2.5cc (week 1- 12) = 500ml a week
Tren ACE EOD .75cc (week 1 -12) = 3ml a week
Equipose E3D 2cc (week 1 - 12) = 4ml a week
Winstrol ED .5cc (week 6-12) = 35ml a week
A.I nolva 40mg EOD (week 1- 12)


PCT Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 5000iu and clomid (week15-18)
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1. Sustanon (sust) 250 E3D and 2.5 ml = 625 mgs / week
2. I would drop the EQ, EQ for 12 weeks is not worth it IMO as you only get full benefits of it around week 9-10
3. Winstrol (winny) at the end should be 50mgs/day and its easier to use it orally, if you already have the injectable suspension you can just drink a ml of it
4. Nolvadex is not an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) get arimidex or aromasin
5. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should be run during cycle at 500iu / week split in 2 250iu injections
6. PCT should be nolvadex and clomid 40/20/20/20 and 100/50/50/50 respectively
 
Also:
Most people recommend not to run tren longer than 8 weeks.
Equipoise believes slow and steady wins the race, 12 weeks may not be enough time. Something like 16 weeks or longer would be more beneficial.
I don't see anything for prolactin, better safe than sorry friend.
Probably want aromasin or arimidex, too.
Running hCG during cycle is smart.
You may regret taking winstrol. If you want help cutting, diet and the tren you will be taking will put you to where you're aiming.
 
I didn't say I was smarter than Mr. Piana, but he comes from an older generation of bodybuilding where hCG was ran as PCT.
 
GoldenEra7 said:
Rich piana said not to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle. What makes you smarter than him?
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Do a little research on the benefits of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle and you will see why.

Lol Rich Piana said not to..lol he comes from an old mind set in his ways... That's like listening to advice from Bostin Lloyd on dosages... its just not right
 
No dude, you're wrong. You don't take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle. Why? BECAUSE RICH PIANA SAID SO! The guy weighs almost 300lbs, I think he knows what he's talkin about.
 
GoldenEra7 said:
No dude, you're wrong. You don't take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle. Why? BECAUSE RICH PIANA SAID SO! The guy weighs almost 300lbs, I think he knows what he's talkin about.
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So does the fat bastard eating double cheeseburgers at mcdonalds, but I don't take aas cycle advice from him either...
 
GoldenEra7 said:
No dude, you're wrong. You don't take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle. Why? BECAUSE RICH PIANA SAID SO! The guy weighs almost 300lbs, I think he knows what he's talkin about.
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With all respect, that was the dumbest thing I've heard from 3 years.
Hcg during cycle not during pct. period.
Science is science, how big or small you are doesn't change facts.
Hcg is suppressive by itself.
 
GoldenEra7 said:
No dude, you're wrong. You don't take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle. Why? BECAUSE RICH PIANA SAID SO! The guy weighs almost 300lbs, I think he knows what he's talkin about.
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Oh I'm sorry, I must be wrong its must be a fact just because some bodybuilder who is still using old school ways and who is not the healthiest guy in the sport said so.

You sure sound like your 16, Mister Rodgers also said he wanted to be your neighbor, better pack your bags to move to his district cause he said so..

Do a little research and reading and stop being an uneducated tool and make your own decisions based on knowledge rather than chime in to something you have no idea about. First of all Rich Piana at his level and size never comes off the juice therefor he doesn't PCT with any compounds let alone Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), he is probably stating what he knew when he use to use it. We are now in 2013 not back in 1999, get with the program. Any PRO who competes and tells you they come off and don't cruise are full of shit. Use your head and think about it... oh thats right hard to use your head when your still wet behind the ears
 
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Honestly, you don't need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at all. You put so much emphasis on it, as if he's going to die if he doesn't take it. Save your money for more test!
 
Your right you don't need it and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a personal choice and I don't always run it either, it is merely recommended due to its benefits and my recommendation was based on the fact he wanted to run it as part of his PCT in the original post. I use to use it right after cycle prior to PCT at 1000ius a day for 10 days but that was 10 years ago and with all the testing and articles written on the subject since then have given more light to the fact that there are far more benefits in using it during cycle to keep lvls going instead of using it post cycle to try and jump start levels from the dead. Not saying post cycle does not work but it would be safer and result in an easier recovery from a cycle if ran during, but to run it with your PCT drugs is not good as Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is suppressive on its own.
 
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