Safe to use Nolvadex with Adex during TEST/DECA cycle? Need to get rid of gyno lumps

[gtower]

Hey all. I have ready Austinites excellent article and others on here, but need some clarification please.

800 test-e/600 deca a week. 8 weeks in 16 week cycle ( on trt ) Adex at .25 EOD, but upping to .5 EOD due to this.

I have a couple dime or so sized lumps under right nip which are a bit sore, so need to get rid of them.

I want to continue cycle, so whats safe and best? ( Rolox is hard for me to get for a couple if reasons, but Nolva is easy )

I am thinking Nolvadex like Austinites article states at 40/day for first week then 20/day till gone and keep everything else the same.

Questions.

1)Does the above sound correct and effective to remove gyno lumps?
2) Is it OK to take the Adex and Nolva at the same time ( somewhat contraindicated I understand )
3) Would it be a good idea to throw in Caber? Though Austinite says prolactin is not a gyno cause and I dont have leaking nips or anything..
4) I dont want to crash E2, so Im wondering about an AI of Adex while taking Nolva and still on cycle. Looking for experiences on this

Thanks all for the assistance

 

[gtower]

Also, I just read this on the forum to complicate that more. True?
"you can't run nolva and deca together"

That would seem to be a problem if true. Anyone else know?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

No thats just a myth, nolva is fine to run wih either 19nor.

Yeah start your nolva now following Austinites protocol. It is correct. Nolva and adex are fine together. If you don't have any prolactin sides... Dont worry about it. Nolva doesnt reduce estrogen levels.. It just stops it from binding to the breast tissue.

Hope that anwsers all your questions... You REALLY need to do some research though, shouldn't be running a 19nor if you don't even understand how SERMs work... Good luck

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Although correct me if I'm wrong I thought Austins protocol called for 40mg daily for the first TWO weeks? Then 20mg daily after that.

Whatever Austins post says follow that.

 

[gtower]

Yes, you may be correct. I will double check that.

Thanks for the reply. One other thing. When should a person use caber? Only when you see lactation? Or when there is nip pain?
I typically rely on an AI instead because I have read that prolactin cant give you gyno itself and that E2 only does that. Slightly confusing.

Advice on when to use caber anyone?

 

[juced_porkchop]

Use an AI on cycle and focus on shrinking gyno when off the cycle IMO

 

[Kazmir]

I agree with juced use arimidex and a DA like prami or caber to control and stall growth then once off cycle use ralox or nolva to destroy the lumps.

 

[gtower]

Makes sense. So keep up a good dose of ADEX. I can experiment with that to get the right dose.
with 600 deca a week, should caber be used? Or just if you see prolactin sides like leaking? That an area I dont fully understand.

Juiced, would you say that Autinites protocol of Tamox while on cycle would work? Just wondering why off cycle.

Thanks allot for the help. Just trying to fine tune. This is my 3rd deca cycle and the first time I have had issues at all.

 

[gtower]

Understood. Thanks for the advice.

I agree with juced use arimidex and a DA like prami or caber to control and stall growth then once off cycle use ralox or nolva to destroy the lumps.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Yes, you may be correct. I will double check that.

Thanks for the reply. One other thing. When should a person use caber? Only when you see lactation? Or when there is nip pain?
I typically rely on an AI instead because I have read that prolactin cant give you gyno itself and that E2 only does that. Slightly confusing.

Advice on when to use caber anyone?

Start using your caber if you get any syntpoms typical of high prolactin. So dick stops working, your nipples start leaking, that well being feeling disappears.. etc..