secnd cycle... gp products. lets hear it

[countryswole]

okay this is my first post.

stats
5' 10"
205lbs
18-20ish body fat not sure exactly right now.
26 years old
will be second cycle
training for 5ish years

so ill be running a GP cycle. I liked all of the positive reviews on them. know people who swear by them. anyways here it is


test E 750mg/week
week 1-16

Deca 375mg/week
week 1-12

TBol 40mg per day
week 1-8


Adex .5mg per day
week 1-19 (using adex into the pct that's why there is an extra 3 weeks)

PCT
Clomid 100mg per day
week 18-22

Nolva 30mg per day
week 18-22


ill be running clen for 2 weeks at a time with a 2 week break towards the en. (haven't decided when and how many I want to do yet)


lets hear it guys. I know yall love to tear cycles apart lol

 

[Megatron28]

There are some issues with your cycle:

Deca needs to be run more that 12 weeks to shine. It takes a long time for it to kick in due to the ester. I would add another 4 weeks to your cycle. Also, the dose is a bit on the lowish side.

End Deca two weeks before ending test. That will give it enough time to clear going into PCT.

I would wait three weeks between last pin and starting PCT instead of two weeks.

Why no hCG or a Dopamine Agonist while on cycle?

Don't run your AI into your PCT. Stop the AI when PCT starts.

I personally wouldn't go 8 weeks with Tbol. Watch your liver. Will you be using NAC and Liv.52?

Where does .50mg of Adex daily put your E2 on these AAS dosages? Granted, your body fat % is on the higher side...

So are you running Clen becasue you will be cutting on this cycle?

 

[halfwit]

.........and tbol at that dose is a waste.



Damn, Tron didn't leave much.

 

[countryswole]

First time with deca. Thanks for the info.

I do have caber also forgot to mention that. No hcg... didn't really show any signs.. with the adex clomid nolva and caber do I really need hcg?

I haven't had blood tests (i know not smart, however I'm overseas for um.... "busines" for the next 9 months and can't get a test done... love the middle east...)

I have Liv 52 and will drop the tbol to 5-6 weeks.

 

[countryswole]

And yeah I will start cutting at the end of the cycle. Hence the clen.

 

[Megatron28]

First time with deca. Thanks for the info.

I do have caber also forgot to mention that. No hcg... didn't really show any signs.. with the adex clomid nolva and caber do I really need hcg?

I haven't had blood tests (i know not smart, however I'm overseas for um.... "busines" for the next 9 months and can't get a test done... love the middle east...)

I have Liv 52 and will drop the tbol to 5-6 weeks.

I use hCG on cycle because I don't like testicular atrophy. But if you are not with that you don't have to run hCG. It will just hinder your recovery during PCT.

I would encourage a adopting the other changes I recommended too.

 

[Megatron28]

And yeah I will start cutting at the end of the cycle. Hence the clen.

So are you going to bulk on cycle and then cut the last few weeks? Or are you cutting during/after PCT? Can you be more specific?

 

[countryswole]

Yeah sorry. What would you recommend for the deca? 400mg? And I'll extend to 14 weeks. I've always heard 2 weeks after last pin for pct. Why 3 weeks? And yeah I'll start cutting towards the end of the cycle and continue through and after the pct. Not worried about teste atrophy. And I don't care if I go sterile either. Already have 3 healthy kids lol don't need anymore.

I think I covered all your questions...

 

[Megatron28]

600-800mg for Deca

You are running more than 500mg/wk. It takes longer for it to clear. Even at 500mg/wk, I think two weeks is cutting it close. You can calcualy the half lives to see how long the test will be around.

Cutting during PCT is a terrible idea. You are trying to restart your HPTA. Why would you put yourself in a caloric deficit which is suppressive? Not to mention of you just bulked the whole cycle you need to stay at that weight for a while before you start cutting. Let your body get used to the new weight. I don't recommend yoyo dieting.

You do understand that letting your testicles atrophy on cycle makes it more difficult for your HPTA to restart during PCT, right? It isnt about fertility. It is about getting your HPTA turned back on again so you can be healthy and keep your gains you just worked so hard to get on cycle.

I think you need to do a lot more research. No offense, but you don't seem ready for AAS.

 

[Onk]

I do have caber also forgot to mention that. No hcg... didn't really show any signs.. with the adex clomid nolva and caber do I really need hcg?

Sorry mate, it worries me that you don't know what AI, DA and SERMs do. Each has a specific purpose and not is the same as HCG.