Second cycle 12wk test e & tbol

[jack3d4life]

So I was almost positive I was going to hop on the tren train, however some members advised against it until I have more experience in aas. I respect all criticism. This is my second cycle, you guys really had my back with my test-e only cycle and I'm hoping you will be just as helpful with this one.

stats:
22
6'1
210
9% bf

I eat super clean, drink on avg. a gallon of water a day and have been training at minimum 5 days a week for 4 years now. I was a prior scout sniper in the army so physical conditioning has always been a must.


This is what I think my cycle will look like:

Test E 1-12 500mgs/week
Tbol 1-6 50mg/day

1mg adex eod
hcg 250iu every mon and thurs weeks 3-14(up till pct)

PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 20/20/20/10/10



Please guys, anything and everything you can add please do. I will say that there is no reason to be a dick either. I am very open to criticism and am a grown man myself. I only ask to be treated like one. Thanks in advance. Happy lifting bros

 

[jack3d4life]

bump

 

[Strong Man]

So I was almost positive I was going to hop on the tren train, however some members advised against it until I have more experience in aas. I respect all criticism. This is my second cycle, you guys really had my back with my test-e only cycle and I'm hoping you will be just as helpful with this one.

stats:
22
6'1
210
9% bf

I eat super clean, drink on avg. a gallon of water a day and have been training at minimum 5 days a week for 4 years now. I was a prior scout sniper in the army so physical conditioning has always been a must.


This is what I think my cycle will look like:

Test E 1-12 500mgs/week
Tbol 1-6 50mg/day

1mg adex eod
hcg 250iu every mon and thurs weeks 3-14(up till pct)

PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 20/20/20/10/10



Please guys, anything and everything you can add please do. I will say that there is no reason to be a dick either. I am very open to criticism and am a grown man myself. I only ask to be treated like one. Thanks in advance. Happy lifting bros

So its great to see your being smart about this.
cycle looks fine but how long have you been off and have you had bloodwork?

PCT needs to be adjusted

and to be clear how long will you stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before your pct?

 

[jack3d4life]

So its great to see your being smart about this.
cycle looks fine but how long have you been off and have you had bloodwork?

PCT needs to be adjusted

and to be clear how long will you stop hcg before your pct?

I've been off for 2 and a half months now so I wqs hoping to start some time in the middle of novmeber. Thoughts? I haven't had my blood work done. You think its an absolute necessity? My bp is perfect and strength plus size is still growing.

How about

Clom: 75,75,50,50
Nolv: 40,40,20,20

And I was going to stop the hcg right before I started post cycle therapy (pct). I didn't use any last cycle so I could have my timing all backwards. From what I keep reading though its supposed to help tremendously with shut down.

 

[MustangDX]

I normally would say that your too young for AAS but your already balls deep...

PCT: Clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Based on your cycle, take the Arimidex @0.5mgs/EOD from the very first pin till you start PCT.

Start the HCG week 1, until the 4th day before PCT.

 

[jack3d4life]

I normally would say that your too young for AAS but your already balls deep...

PCT: Clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Based on your cycle, take the Arimidex @0.5mgs/EOD from the very first pin till you start PCT.



I totally get where you are coming from, the only reason I could get anyone to help me with my test only is I had to explain that I was the idiot kid that got sucked into prohormones at the age of 17-20. Fucking stupid.

Thanks for the help brother I really do appreciate it. Ill be sure to adjust my pct and hcg. You think I'll have been off long enough by mid novmeber?? It will have been a little over 3 and a half months.

Start the HCG week 1, until the 4th day before PCT

 

[MustangDX]

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[MustangDX]

I totally get where you are coming from, the only reason I could get anyone to help me with my test only is I had to explain that I was the idiot kid that got sucked into prohormones at the age of 17-20. Fucking stupid.

Thanks for the help brother I really do appreciate it. Ill be sure to adjust my pct and hcg. You think I'll have been off long enough by mid novmeber?? It will have been a little over 3 and a half months.

Time "ON" + PCT= Time "OFF"

 

[ozzyozzy21]

I've been off for 2 and a half months now so I wqs hoping to start some time in the middle of novmeber. Thoughts? I haven't had my blood work done. You think its an absolute necessity? My bp is perfect and strength plus size is still growing.

How about

Clom: 75,75,50,50
Nolv: 40,40,20,20

And I was going to stop the hcg right before I started post cycle therapy (pct). I didn't use any last cycle so I could have my timing all backwards. From what I keep reading though its supposed to help tremendously with shut down.

I honestly feel bloods are necessary. I consider it part of the cycle like post cycle therapy (pct). bloods can help you see if you're gear is real, how we'll you're recovering, let you know how well your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is working, helps you get to know how your body reacts to certain compounds so one day when you do get to run that tren you'll know exactly what's doing what to your body. I recommend one as often as you can afford but I'd say at least one before cycle and after. In the middle is just as important if you doubt your source.

All other advice here looks solid. Mustang has you headed in the right direction. Good luck!

 

[jack3d4life]

Time "ON" + PCT= Time "OFF"

It will have been damn close, but I'll push it back 2 weeks more just in case and try to scrape some money together for the blood test.. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it bro.

 

[jack3d4life]

I honestly feel bloods are necessary. I consider it part of the cycle like post cycle therapy (pct). bloods can help you see if you're gear is real, how we'll you're recovering, let you know how well your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is working, helps you get to know how your body reacts to certain compounds so one day when you do get to run that tren you'll know exactly what's doing what to your body. I recommend one as often as you can afford but I'd say at least one before cycle and after. In the middle is just as important if you doubt your source.

All other advice here looks solid. Mustang has you headed in the right direction. Good luck!

Thanks a lot for your input man! I'm going to really try to get the money together. Any ideas on an avg. price? I might be just making it a big deal haha.

 

[ozzyozzy21]

Female hormone panel from private md labs is like $50 bucks. Make sure you google discount codes for private md labs. That'll save you like 15% and get you down to the $50

 

[nyf9330]

Thanks for posting, looking in to something similar for my next cycle

 

[Yurek]

looking good, altough 1mg adex EOD seems a little to much.. are you sensitive to E2 sides?

 

[jack3d4life]

Thanks for posting, looking in to something similar for my next cycle

Bro my pleasure. Super stoked about this one.

 

[jack3d4life]

looking good, altough 1mg adex EOD seems a little to much.. are you sensitive to E2 sides?

I know it seems like a lot. I wqs having issues with my left nipple my last cycle and I talked to this dude at the gym who is well known for helping people with their cycles. He's an ifbb pro of some sort. But hes the one who suggested it

 

[MustangDX]

I know it seems like a lot. I wqs having issues with my left nipple my last cycle and I talked to this dude at the gym who is well known for helping people with their cycles. He's an ifbb pro of some sort. But hes the one who suggested it

Taking too much Adex will make you feel like shit and give you sides. Too much or not enough Adex is bad, that's why you need to find your sweet spot...

 

[baseball40]

I'm looking to get some bloodwork, but I might have a dumb question based upon a post above. For males, which test should I pick from be Private MD labs sight? I see the reference to 'female hormone panel' so not sure. Thanks for any help! Cycle will be t300, deca and dbol.

 

[jack3d4life]

Taking too much Adex will make you feel like shit and give you sides. Too much or not enough Adex is bad, that's why you need to find your sweet spot...

I started with .25 eod nipple started to feel weird, moved up to .5 eod but still was acting up. I even got a little lump however after I talked to him and moved up to 1mg eod my e2 went away and the lump dissappeared

 

[jack3d4life]

Taking too much Adex will make you feel like shit and give you sides. Too much or not enough Adex is bad, that's why you need to find your sweet spot...

I started with .25 eod nipple started to feel weird, moved up to .5 eod but still was acting up. I even got a little lump however after I talked to him and moved up to 1mg eod my e2 went away and the lump dissappeared